Poll: Piracy and you?

[memyselfandi]

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[kylew]

The opposite is true for "dodgey dave" and his mates however, I think more people are realising it is easier to download for themselves and not have to pay anything, partly for the cost and partly for the ease. Personally I think paying for pirated media is the really bad thing. It means someone is profiting from someone elses work and that really isn't on (same to an extent for the usenet users amongst us, if you want to pay someone for your pirated goods then pay the companies that made them).

As for whether I copy and download, yes, although I also buy stuff. Mostly films and mainly because it is far easier for me to just download them than buy a DVD, copy it to my computer and reencode it in a different format. If there was a decent download service for films then I would use that (we also have a subscription to Blockbuster so get "unlimited" films thorugh the post with them too). TV episodes I used to download a lot of but now with BBC iPlayer I rarely do, mostly US shows that aren't available here if I do.

I think the first paragraph is especially true for most people, it really is the people who are profiting from pirated content that are the problem.

People simply downloading though? To be honest, there should be laws that tell the record industry (etc) to get lost if they tried to pursue people for damages (like Canada).

The law should be focusing on far more important things really.

As to your point on downloading movies, I've got about 60 blurays, and to watch them on my PC, I have to abide by all the rules they enforce, I should be able to simply put the disc in my drive, and play it.

I shouldn't have to satisfy a checklist of nonsense first before I want to watch my movie, BD rips are just SO MUCH EASIER.

It's utterly bizarre that those who BUY the stuff are the ones who have the endure the anti piracy nonsense.

"PIRACY IS A CRIME" is only ever viewed by those who HAVEN'T pirated the media they're watching, where's the logic in that?

 

[Glaucus]

The law should be focusing on far more important things really.

It's civil law, so nothing is wasted.

 

[Chimerical]

"PIRACY IS A CRIME" is only ever viewed by those who HAVEN'T pirated the media they're watching, where's the logic in that?

I pirate and see it as a crime.

Just deal with it.

 

[kylew]

OK, you think it's acceptable to just not pay for stuff on occasion, because you've got better things to spend your money on. Nice. If that's actually what you think there's sod all point discussing it and I've zero time for you.

So from my whole post, that's all you got from it?

Funny how you've just dismissed the references to "occasional speeding" isn't it?

The simple fact of it is that people actually have a CHOICE about purchasing content.

People now have the option to get the stuff for free, so there is actually a CHOICE, this is what the "piracy is theft" people don't understand.

If there was no way to download stuff for free, then the only option to get it for free would be theft, but that's not the case.

I now have a choice, do I want to pay for something? Is it worth it to me?

I can, and do get things for free, as do a lot of other people.

You can't say "you shouldn't do that" as it's very accessible, easy to do and practically given to you on a silver platter, hurts no one (despite what they would have you believe) and benefits everyone involved.

I then have the luxury of CHOOSING if I think it's worth my money.

Like it or not, but this is how it works for a lot of people.

 

[kylew]

It's civil law, so nothing is wasted.

Oh I know, I meant it to those who want it to be criminal and those who act like it is.

Especially when they try to get solicitors involved to send letters out to the "offenders".

 

[Kenai]

I pirate and see it as a crime.

Just deal with it.

He was referring to the OMFG YOU DIRTY STEALING ***** messages you only get at the start of a DVD you had the audacity to actually pay money for.

 

[rypt]

"PIRACY IS A CRIME" is only ever viewed by those who HAVEN'T pirated the media they're watching, where's the logic in that?

Downloading is technically not a crime in the UK ...

 

[kylew]

I pirate and see it as a crime.

Just deal with it.

Cool, see it how ever you want, just because you see it as theft, doesn't actually mean it is.

If it was theft, it'd be called theft, not piracy.

Not calling it theft doesn't take away from what it is, on the contrary, calling it theft only serves the purpose of making it out as something that it isn't, mostly for drama reasons really.

It has its own definition, why do you want it to be called something else with such desperation?

 

[Chimerical]

He was referring to the OMFG YOU DIRTY STEALING ***** messages you only get at the start of a DVD you had the audacity to actually pay money for.

Oh well that is dumb. Everyone hates that advert and it'll be killed off eventually.

 

[kylew]

Downloading is technically not a crime in the UK ...

I know. I meant it in the same way as Rypt said it.

Maybe you're a pirate and therefore you don't know.

 

[kylew]

Oh well that is dumb. Everyone hates that advert and it'll be killed off eventually.

You hate it, yet you also agree with it?

They're the ones who started that nonsense.

Their idea was to associate piracy with theft, which would (in their eyes) make people think the same thing, and therefore avoid it as it's "theft".

Hey, why don't we, from now on, class assault as attempted murder? They're similar, right? They can both involve some one beating some one else, right?

 

[rypt]

You hate it, yet you also agree with it?

They're the ones who started that nonsense.

Their idea was to associate piracy with theft, which would (in their eyes) make people think the same thing, and therefore avoid it as it's "theft".

Hey, why don't we, from now on, class assault as attempted murder? They're similar, right? They can both involve some one beating some one else, right?

And watching porn is now "rape"

 

[Amp34]

You don't have to pay for Usenet access though, it is available free.

True, but the vast majority in these sort of threads in the past do.

 

[Amp34]

I know. I meant it in the same way as Rypt said it.

Maybe you're a pirate and therefore you don't know.

Just say you are Australian on the country selector at the beginning of the film, doesn't play in most cases...

 

[kylew]

Just say you are Australian on the country selector at the beginning of the film, doesn't play in most cases...

Really? Why's that?

Do you mean the whole film doesn't play because it's "banned"?

 

[Jez]

(same to an extent for the usenet users amongst us, if you want to pay someone for your pirated goods then pay the companies that made them).

Decent usenet access is available from around $10/month and is by far the best and safest way to download things. I am not sure i follow your misunderstanding of paying its very low cost vs paying for all of the original media

 

[Amp34]

Really? Why's that?

Do you mean the whole film doesn't play because it's "banned"?

No, just the stupid "piracy is a crime" unskippable carp that comes on on most DVD's now. Choose Australian over all other languages because the menus are in English!

Decent usenet access is available from around $10/month and is by far the best and safest way to download things. I am not sure i follow your misunderstanding of paying its very low cost vs paying for all of the original media

Because you are paying someone else to download/view someone elses property, no different in my eyes to buying a dodgey DVD from the pub. Both are making a profit from someone elses work.

Yes there are people who pay for usenet to download legitimate things but lets be honest they are mostly in the minority.

 

[mattyfez]

music, film and media companies in general are making record profits.

I rest my case.

 

[Mark A]

I always buy games but dl the odd TV show as we get it so late over here. I buy the boxsets of my fav shows though and watch them again when they're aired over here.