Poll: Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike at Christmas?

Do you support the BA Cabin Crew 12 day strike?

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 12.5%

  • No

    Votes: 656 87.5%
  • Total voters
    750
  • Poll closed .
dannyjo22 said:
Labour only really got in again because people where so utterly fed up of the tories, yet people seem to forget this. The same is happening again, Cameron is only going to walk it because everyone is sick of whats happening.
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That's how politics works in this country and how it will continue to work until real democracy is forced on us by the EU (proportional representation).

One day people will wise up and realise nothing changes, or maybe they have which is why more people vote for X factor than an election.
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They have, but a good few still have their say. Still many times more people vote in a general election than in x-factor (unique voters in any single ballot).
 
Dolph said:
because the population, collectively, want the impossible and the government tries to accommodate.

There is a reason why I want the smallest government that is possible and practical, and it isn't because I trust one party more than the others.
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I see it as the public wants what they deserve, and both governments fudge pack it.
 
Dolph said:
I wonder whether those who have now rushed out and made alternative arrangements (customers, other airlines, BA) can now claim damages from the union for the costs incurred due to their illegal declaration of strike action.

or is this another case of Unions without responsibility, much like the rest of the laws relating to striking?
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No, because that would be utterly retarded, and I'm sure I don't need to explain why.
 
Rich_L said:
No, because that would be utterly retarded, and I'm sure I don't need to explain why.
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Actually, you do. If this was a business, they would be expected to take responsibility for the consequences of their mistake.

Why should the union be any different in that regard?
 
stockhausen said:
Quite so; the safety and health of passengers should always be of paramount importance ;)
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Which is why it is vital to manage attendance through a robust absence management process to ensure that you have healthy staff available to serve customers.
 
I can just hear the BA cabin crew speech training swinging into gear . . .
"I'm sorry sir, I do sympathise but it's not my decision, I'm just adhering to company procedures. If you would like to pursue the matter when you get back into the departure lounge, I am sure that there will be a senior representative of the company there to explain the rules to you. Meanwhile, could you please get off the aircraft and allow us to search the hold and remove your bags?"​
:D
 
Blimey Lucky BA = Lucky Passengers.

Will they re ballot or hopefully come to a more civilised agreement?
 
Some of you are being very blinkered. Yes I agree the timing is bad, and I think they should wait and not ruin other peoples Christmas. HOWEVER they are completely right in fighting for their rights. It is unacceptable that the management have free rein to change terms and conditions. How would you like it if you came into work and had a similar issue?

I work in the same industry obviously, and aviation really is in race to the bottom in terms of terms and conditions. There is nothing wrong with fighting to keep some reasonable terms and conditions.
 
Blinkz said:
Some of you are being very blinkered. Yes I agree the timing is bad, and I think they should wait and not ruin other peoples Christmas. HOWEVER they are completely right in fighting for their rights. It is unacceptable that the management have free rein to change terms and conditions. How would you like it if you came into work and had a similar issue?

I work in the same industry obviously, and aviation really is in race to the bottom in terms of terms and conditions. There is nothing wrong with fighting to keep some reasonable terms and conditions.
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i agree with you
 
stockhausen said:
I can just hear the BA cabin crew speech training swinging into gear . . .
"I'm sorry sir, I do sympathise but it's not my decision, I'm just adhering to company procedures. If you would like to pursue the matter when you get back into the departure lounge, I am sure that there will be a senior representative of the company there to explain the rules to you. Meanwhile, could you please get off the aircraft and allow us to search the hold and remove your bags?"​
:D
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Yes, I'm sure the staff being as difficult to the customers as possible will help their long term goal of maintaining their terms and conditions at above average levels...
 
Blinkz said:
Some of you are being very blinkered. Yes I agree the timing is bad, and I think they should wait and not ruin other peoples Christmas. HOWEVER they are completely right in fighting for their rights. It is unacceptable that the management have free rein to change terms and conditions. How would you like it if you came into work and had a similar issue?

I work in the same industry obviously, and aviation really is in race to the bottom in terms of terms and conditions. There is nothing wrong with fighting to keep some reasonable terms and conditions.
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What is a change in terms and conditions in terms of a slight alteration in staffing numbers?

Does a supermarket have to consult all it's staff if it decides to close a till?
 
At the end of the day they are still better treated than most other airlines and the company is struggling. Other branches of the company had to make sacrifices in order to help BA get through this rough period, my mum for example (team leader in cargo) took a months worth of unpaid holiday at the request of management. She did so without protest because she knew it would ultimately benefit her as it would help the company survive, these guys however just don't seem to realize that taking industrial action at this sort of time to such a great degree will only ever do more harm than it does good for them.

BA are still exceeding the minimum amount of cabin crew required by law, i don't see how it's a matter worthy of industrial action.

[EDIT] I do agree that a compromise does need to be met, but to me this just seems like too great a strain to put on an already desperately struggling company.
 
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Dolph said:
What is a change in terms and conditions in terms of a slight alteration in staffing numbers?

Does a supermarket have to consult all it's staff if it decides to close a till?
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So they should just accept that a load of them will lose there job and be happy about it?? The WHOLE point of a strike is to get the management to enter talks to find a COMPROMISE. No one is saying that the industry isn't in trouble and so action isn't needed, but you need to consult the staff and have an AGREEMENT with them.
 
Blinkz said:
So they should just accept that a load of them will lose there job and be happy about it?? The WHOLE point of a strike is to get the management to enter talks to find a COMPROMISE. No one is saying that the industry isn't in trouble and so action isn't needed, but you need to consult the staff and have an AGREEMENT with them.
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But that can only be done if the staff are being reasonable or listen. If the staff are unwilling to be reasonable, then you can't reach an agreement... There are also no compulsory redundancies as a result of this agreement.

Remember, this agreement has been in place at Gatwick for ages with no ill effects.
 
Dolph said:
But that can only be done if the staff are being reasonable or listen. If the staff are unwilling to be reasonable, then you can't reach an agreement... There are also no compulsory redundancies as a result of this agreement.

Remember, this agreement has been in place at Gatwick for ages with no ill effects.
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So equally works when the company is being unreasonable yes?
 
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