rage against the x-factor - Outcome: RATM is the Christmas Number One!

Basher said:
Umm, that's what the other guy said too? He just included the return of the stake.
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No, he seemed to think putting £1000 down on 100/1 would yield a £101,000 return. He just appeared to be adding numbers on to the end of "100/1".
 
PMKeates said:
He has been offered tons of money and opportunities on the condition that, for a while at least, he is a puppet.

I'd take the offer. Would you seriously not?
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1. I HIGHLY doubt anyone told him to say what he did.
2. Common sense plays a part in such matters. He has done himself no favours, as shown in this thread. If someone told me to say that, no I wouldn't. It's clear it'll just stir things up in the oppositions favour.
 
We should start one next year, push an Iron Maiden song to number 1. That would be awesome, Iron Maiden Christmas number 1. :p

I can just picture it now.

I'm waiting in my cold cell, when the bell begins to chime....
reflecting on my past life and it doesn't have much time....

(Hallowed Be Thy Name) :D
 
kylew said:
He's got a dart board with Zack's picture on it. How pathetic is he?
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LOL

You really think he has that dartboard?

Look at him pose with it. It has publicity stunt written all over it.
skippi90 said:
1. I HIGHLY doubt anyone told him to say what he did.
2. Common sense plays a part in such matters. He has done himself no favours, as shown in this thread. If someone told me to say that, no I wouldn't. It's clear it'll just stir things up in the oppositions favour.
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1. I guarantee you the X-Factor contract is full of clauses granting control over his media image. I imagine he was told pretty much what to say, but may have over-egg'd it a little. That's no surprise - he's young and has been in the spotlight 10 minutes.

2. Congratulations - you have fantastic moral fibre. However, in this case, it could have lost you a fortune. He has taken the option that grants him endless opportunity for the sake of saying and doing a few things he may or may not agree with.
dmpoole said:
No.
I've only been on the lower rungs of music for the last 39 years but no one has ever heard me **** off local rivals - it's unethical.
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I'm clearly not well versed in the ethics of the music industry, but young Joe is not a megastar. He has talent that he has the opportunity to utilise in such a way that will never come along again. I imagine the balanced ethics of what to say have barely graced his mind, and to criticise him for being caught up in the hype when world famous individuals are around him and trying to guide him, in my opinion, is unfair.

Look at Susan Boyle. Some media reports would have you believe she went virtually insane. But, do you really think that she is a bad person for it? No. None of us here have an idea of the pressure these people are being put under. If the number of celebrities that end up with drug or drink problems is anything to go bye, it's a lot.
 
Joe Macwhingery said:
"...They wouldn't get through to boot camp on The X Factor - they're just shouting."
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Indeed, because getting through to boot camp on X Factor is the only real measure of talent and creativity.

Somebody ought to let Rage know :/
 
PMKeates said:
1. I guarantee you the X-Factor contract is full of clauses granting control over his media image. I imagine he was told pretty much what to say, but may have over-egg'd it a little. That's no surprise - he's young and has been in the spotlight 10 minutes.

2. Congratulations - you have fantastic moral fibre. However, in this case, it could have lost you a fortune. He has taken the option that grants him endless opportunity for the sake of saying and doing a few things he may or may not agree with.
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I now believe fully that he is obliged to blow Simon Cowell in the back of a limo. It must be true because I believe it is. No evidence required, an assumption will do.
 
Linoge said:
We should start one next year, push an Iron Maiden song to number 1. That would be awesome, Iron Maiden Christmas number 1. :p

I can just picture it now.

I'm waiting in my cold cell, when the bell begins to chime....
reflecting on my past life and it doesn't have much time....

(Hallowed Be Thy Name) :D
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You sir have sublime thoughts. However I fear I may be the only person to agree with you :p
 
skippi90 said:
I now believe fully that he is obliged to blow Simon Cowell in the back of a limo. It must be true because I believe it is. No evidence required, an assumption will do.
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I also assume that the world isn't going to end tomorrow. There's no proof, but, you know, it's a pretty safe guess.

You'd have to be pretty crazy to think that Joe hasn't practically signed his life away to Simon Cowell.
 
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