Yay ! Best.....MMO....times....ever !
If only it was practical (which sadly it isnt) , I'd love an MMO with perma death.
AION - could become great?
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Yay ! Best.....MMO....times....ever !
If only it was practical (which sadly it isnt) , I'd love an MMO with perma death.
I keep hearing that they are, that a lot of things will be made easier but when people have been able to macro for 6 months + no amount of time I invest will result in me being able to catch up. Unlike UO who did put a skill cap in place.
I no longer get the chance to play 40 hours a week unfortunately, much less time but its what you do with your short time that counts.
Its a good question about what I am looking for and I think only one game ever had that for me... Problem is with Darkfall I didn't seem to find things were that rare, also because of the full loot resulted in a lot of naked fights... Again I only played for 1 month so maybe I didn't give it long enough. I was in a guild and an alliance thing that owned a city and some of the PvP was cool, large scale battles were fun. The game I thought had it perfect was a game called legend of mir had it right until it caved in for the carebears... Rare items (0.01% for some items) but when you got pked/died you had a random chance of dropping items. So most people would fight in their best gear. However it was also funny when someone had been killing the same boss day in day out for like 2 years to finally get their weapon, then get pked by me and drop it the very same day
Yay ! Best.....MMO....times....ever !
If only it was practical (which sadly it isnt) , I'd love an MMO with perma death.
Hell yea, I was only 13 at the time, I loved it
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That isn't true in my experiance, I have played DAoC 9 years now, 4000 people on my server this evening.
and yet you have to admit that during it's prime days that figure was minute compared to what it used to be.
MMO's have long been a massive risk for the past 7yrs or so, financially. You've got to pool your money into a colossal ton of resources with no solid indication that you will get anywhere (Codemasters Dragon Empires for example). Developers have PvP and PvM core players to cater for and are forever balancing the plates - I am honestly surprised that Blizzard have kept WoW going for so long tbh.
I could go back to UO and have a blast...for a week until I wake up to the fact that the world around me contains about a 1000 players, when at its prime it held many times that amount.
We've all seen so many MMO's come and go and the formula is always the same, they launch, reach max maturity, then get dumbed down, then come the free 30day offers for old players and finally the game reaches it's OAP stages (See UO, Daoc etc).
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The situation here is a game which definitely has potential it just needs some definitive patching to update the high level content. The game hasn't had time to mature unlike wow for example.
If ncsoft actually start providing acceptable customer service & in game gm's this would boost moral i nthe community by leaps and bounds.
Only time will tell but i think Aion has a lot of punch yet. Don't forget it's only been what 3 mths?
If ncsoft actually start providing acceptable customer service & in game gm's this would boost moral i nthe community by leaps and bounds.
Only time will tell but i think Aion has a lot of punch yet. Don't forget it's only been what 3 mths?
Well my month's nearly up and I don't think I'll be subbing. The game itself is great, lots of imagination used in the design and really like the classes and PvP.
But....NCSoft are letting it go to hell with bots, spammers, goldsellers and phishers. Seriously, the recent press about banning goldsellers was obviously a once off to generate good press.
The area in front of the bank in panda is always full of blatant goldsellers, I get tells several times a night telling me to log onto an ncsoft-like website to get free gifts, I get tells from obvious gold sellers and others who are obviously using hacked accounts.
The worst was running into a bot last night who was clearing up an area I was trying to quest in. I hadn't a chance because he was 3 levels higher than me. The worst of it was that his guild was called 'Cleaning Group II'. I mean COME ON!
You can't even report these guys, the process itself isn't easy and half the time you get a message saying support is closed.
NCSoft can go and sing if they think I'm paying them for that kind of crap.
But....NCSoft are letting it go to hell with bots, spammers, goldsellers and phishers. Seriously, the recent press about banning goldsellers was obviously a once off to generate good press.
The area in front of the bank in panda is always full of blatant goldsellers, I get tells several times a night telling me to log onto an ncsoft-like website to get free gifts, I get tells from obvious gold sellers and others who are obviously using hacked accounts.
The worst was running into a bot last night who was clearing up an area I was trying to quest in. I hadn't a chance because he was 3 levels higher than me. The worst of it was that his guild was called 'Cleaning Group II'. I mean COME ON!
You can't even report these guys, the process itself isn't easy and half the time you get a message saying support is closed.
NCSoft can go and sing if they think I'm paying them for that kind of crap.
If it helps, theres an icon for reporting in your actions section, you can just drop it onto your hotbar and whenever you see someone botting you just click the icon and it automatically reports them. Dont even need to type anything in, cant get much easier than that
dont forget in certain zones you can select Menu > Support > Channel ... this will teleport you to basically another instance in the same spot, handy if there is a lot of people on the same quest . *note not all zones have more channels*
the botting in this game is probably my main problem, however things are seriously better than the first two months, some places I counted 20+ bots cramped into a small area all fighting the same mobs. Regarding gold spam and phishing, thats something you see in every big MMo these days and it simply wont go away. There are enough warnings on entry to the game and if you use RMT its your own fault if you get hacked or scammed .(imo).
the botting in this game is probably my main problem, however things are seriously better than the first two months, some places I counted 20+ bots cramped into a small area all fighting the same mobs. Regarding gold spam and phishing, thats something you see in every big MMo these days and it simply wont go away. There are enough warnings on entry to the game and if you use RMT its your own fault if you get hacked or scammed .(imo).
Only zones you can change is Altgaurd(1-20) and Brusthorin(17ish-25ish, 42-50) rest you can't.
Yea botting isn't as bad as it used to be however, I have fraps of me following bots for over 10 mins, I know people have botted who I have reported (4+ weeks ago) everyone of them is still in game even with fraps proof...
Its sad to see people I removed from guild over 2 months ago who botted to 50 still in game....
Yea botting isn't as bad as it used to be however, I have fraps of me following bots for over 10 mins, I know people have botted who I have reported (4+ weeks ago) everyone of them is still in game even with fraps proof...
Its sad to see people I removed from guild over 2 months ago who botted to 50 still in game....
I've played most of them, and this is by far the worst I've seen. It's also the first eastern mmo, mind you, maybe it's par for the course. Yes you get it in most mmo's, but you also generally see a much more pro-active reaction from western developers.
When it gets to the stage that botters are organising their workshifts into guilds and naming them openly, you've got major problems.
Honestly, how hard can it be for a gm to check outside the bank whenever he logs in and just zap the spammers, or keep an eye on the LFG channel and do the same thing? I don't think they're bothered, to be honest.
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What's the problem with botting? People use buff bots in DAoC all the time - it's commonly accepted that you need one to compete.
I take it this is a troll post? I don't want to reply if it is. This isn't being funny but before I want to reply I actually want to make sure this is for real...
Thanks.
There problem is that there is so many bots farming mobs for XP/drops that there simply isn't enough mobs for the real players to level without being slowed down.
Buffbots may have given one side a positive bonus but it didn't negatively effect anyone, not directly anyway. With bots in Aion it makes leveling harder, it make drops such as krall molars and lepharist stuff more expensive, it ruins the market prices.
In a game like EVE online, the game world is so huge that it can cope with a few bots, but in Aion the game world is small, overcrowded and heavily filled with bots.
Also, some bots kill steal, which means that if one just happens to be in the same area as you, you will get reduced XP for every kill.
I will actually entertain this suspected troll with a reply... Unless you are specifically talking about buff bots only which I have not had experience with...
I will list a few points of what the problem is with botting…
Dave works, he only gets to play a few hours every other night. In that time Dave manages to get something drop which is of some value. Dave now has enough money to sustain his characters in frequent play and maybe buy him self some nice items. However this is not the case, Daves play time only equates to 15-20 hours a week tops. However the items which he gets drop is worth next to nothing due to botters which can farm the same place for 168 hours a week. This based on Daves 20 hour a week play style gives the bot a 8x more advantage of getting drops. This means two things… Dave doesn’t get as much money due to the botters flooding the market with items selling them for cheaper. Because the bots can sell the goods cheaper the people who are botting are making a load of money thus forcing the prices of other items up as there is more cash for the botters leaving poor people like Dave not being able to get anything.
Ok, so I’m a level 50 with pimped out gear, I decide to farm for cash in a nice little spot with some nice little mobs with no chance of me dying. Now Dave comes along as a level 45 to try and do a quest which requires him killing 15 of these mobs. Now because this is a good botting spot there are about 10 other bots, only 15 mobs spawn at once and unfortunately for Dave because we are all higher than him we out DPS him and he can not complete his quest, any items which drop again the botters get.
Same scenario as above as well the Aion world is rather small. Dave wants to level however the only 4 realistic spots he can level is all occupied with bots. Dave has gone from 15% an hour to sub 5% a hour. While it doesn’t effect the bots because they will be making lower exp all through the day/night.
Ok so Dave thinks, I know I’ll go and complete that campaign quest which requires I kill x amount of these mobs… O no again there are so many bots here levelling I can’t get the main part of a story line of my quest done…
A friend of mine used to bot in a game. He used to have about 10 instances running per PC on two pcs. The dude became rich. Because his main used bows and he was just buying all the bows up the bows nearly doubled in price… Now for your average Joe this was a big jump having to pay double due to botting….
Level 50 bot who is a known botter who has stopped botting after he hits 50 is not banned... Dave gets fed up of spending all his time each week to not even make one level. Dave thinks botting is acceptable and Dave ends up getting banned as the owners of the game decide to make them selfs look good and only ban the current botters...
Etc etc etc
TL : DR version - bots are for insecure emo kids.
I will list a few points of what the problem is with botting…
Dave works, he only gets to play a few hours every other night. In that time Dave manages to get something drop which is of some value. Dave now has enough money to sustain his characters in frequent play and maybe buy him self some nice items. However this is not the case, Daves play time only equates to 15-20 hours a week tops. However the items which he gets drop is worth next to nothing due to botters which can farm the same place for 168 hours a week. This based on Daves 20 hour a week play style gives the bot a 8x more advantage of getting drops. This means two things… Dave doesn’t get as much money due to the botters flooding the market with items selling them for cheaper. Because the bots can sell the goods cheaper the people who are botting are making a load of money thus forcing the prices of other items up as there is more cash for the botters leaving poor people like Dave not being able to get anything.
Ok, so I’m a level 50 with pimped out gear, I decide to farm for cash in a nice little spot with some nice little mobs with no chance of me dying. Now Dave comes along as a level 45 to try and do a quest which requires him killing 15 of these mobs. Now because this is a good botting spot there are about 10 other bots, only 15 mobs spawn at once and unfortunately for Dave because we are all higher than him we out DPS him and he can not complete his quest, any items which drop again the botters get.
Same scenario as above as well the Aion world is rather small. Dave wants to level however the only 4 realistic spots he can level is all occupied with bots. Dave has gone from 15% an hour to sub 5% a hour. While it doesn’t effect the bots because they will be making lower exp all through the day/night.
Ok so Dave thinks, I know I’ll go and complete that campaign quest which requires I kill x amount of these mobs… O no again there are so many bots here levelling I can’t get the main part of a story line of my quest done…
A friend of mine used to bot in a game. He used to have about 10 instances running per PC on two pcs. The dude became rich. Because his main used bows and he was just buying all the bows up the bows nearly doubled in price… Now for your average Joe this was a big jump having to pay double due to botting….
Level 50 bot who is a known botter who has stopped botting after he hits 50 is not banned... Dave gets fed up of spending all his time each week to not even make one level. Dave thinks botting is acceptable and Dave ends up getting banned as the owners of the game decide to make them selfs look good and only ban the current botters...
Etc etc etc
TL : DR version - bots are for insecure emo kids.
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