BMW to unleash 350bhp M1...

Alex UK said:
This should be so awesome...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/246235/

:D
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Really? You could go out today and buy a 2nd hand but low mileage 135i, spend a few hundred quid and get c. 380bhp/400bhp with stacks of those torques too.

Even if you go as far as sorting the suspension and diff you'd still be making a huge saving from the bonkers £38k no options list price.

The M1 tag should be left for something that deserves it.
 
HummuH1 said:
Really? You could go out today and buy a 2nd hand but low mileage 135i, spend a few hundred quid and get c. 380bhp/400bhp with stacks of those torques too.

Even if you go as far as sorting the suspension and diff you'd still be making a huge saving from the bonkers £38k no options list price.

The M1 tag should be left for something that deserves it.
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There is no point comparing it to a second hand 135i, you should compare it to a brand new 135i. It is £8000 more, so you have to work out whether you could make a 135i as good/better with that kind of budget. Don't forget than M cars usually have a better base spec when it comes to options as well.
 
Wicksta said:
There is no point comparing it to a second hand 135i, you should compare it to a brand new 135i. It is £8000 more, so you have to work out whether you could make a 135i as good/better with that kind of budget. Don't forget than M cars usually have a better base spec when it comes to options as well.
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And much better residual values. It looks like this new car could be a serious consideration for those looking to purchase a new 135i.
 
Wicksta said:
There is no point comparing it to a second hand 135i, you should compare it to a brand new 135i. It is £8000 more, so you have to work out whether you could make a 135i as good/better with that kind of budget. Don't forget than M cars usually have a better base spec when it comes to options as well.
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OK then, could you make a brand new 135i as good as the proposed M1 spec for £8k? Easilly IMO. And if you're worried about warranty, I think ACS (or badged as ACS) are still planning to release a re-map for the x35i engines which will have full BMW approval and not affect warranty. From what I saw previously, not as pushy as other maps but was c. 360 bhp/380Nm iirc.

Scuzi said:
And much better residual values. It looks like this new car could be a serious consideration for those looking to purchase a new 135i.
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I'm not so sure about that. Previously, 3 series and 5 series M residuals have been strong but the E90/92/60 variants bombed quite badly. The Z4M had poor residuals and I'm sure the X5M and X6M will be the same too. I think this M1 version could possibly be the worst of the bunch for residuals.

I've got no stats but I'd wager that BMW Diesels have had much better residuals than the M variants in recent years.
 
I thought the rumours on the 1 series M were that it was going lightweight and would be using a turbo 4 pot with a projected weight closer to 1300kg?
 
£38,000 for that heap of ****!
I WOULDNT DARE!!!!

Just because it has a BMW badge does not warrant the price - the build quality of BMW's isnt very good eitehr these days. Rather buy a R20 or the forthcoming RS3 and still have money left over for countless escorts!
 
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Anyone who thinks a 135i needs to be quicker is a little bit mental to be honest.
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That article says a 0-60 time of something like 5.3 seconds, seems pretty slow for an M car, considering the 135i does it in like 5.5 seconds doesn't it :confused:

The x35i engine can be remapped and with a few small addons can reach 360~bhp anyway.
 
Well not really as the m1 is ment to be 5.3 to 0 60 which would make a 3 series half a second quicker which is hardly a mile
 
Eliot said:
Well not really as the m1 is ment to be 5.3 to 0 60 which would make a 3 series half a second quicker which is hardly a mile
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Only 0.2 seconds quicker than a 135i which is £8k cheaper, all the other ///M cars are quicker to 60 than 5 seconds iirc.
 
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