Advise on annoying neighbors

I'd speak to the neighbours above and below or anyone else who is annoyed and get them to complain to the council and landlord.

With time they will see that there is more to it than just the odd loud noise or bang.

Hope you manage to get her thrown out as she is clearly ****ing people off.
 
Tonight, go round and talk to the people in the flat before the music/partying starts and have a good long conversation with them about the noise, and how the other tennants feel as well as the fact that if it continues they'll be looking at being evicted. If after this chat, the same thing happens, the first time it happens phone the police/noise control. If this should fail, go round to the flat and tell them you will not ask them again. If the music strikes up once again then, I say this with 100% seriousness, go round with a bat and smash the music player up.

Also make a written log of the last 3 nights asap so you have proof, and try to get a recording of any music/noise.
 
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Buy the loudest sound system you can afford and some earplugs.

Police won't do anything (rightly or wrongly).
If they are as you describe they won't change.
And you can't move out.
 
starfighter said:
Buy the loudest sound system you can afford and some earplugs.
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Yes the yellow foam ones work best .They must go to sleep sometimes so wait untill then ,turn the music up and go out for tthe day .

My ex use to call the cops about loud neighbours and they would come around and have a word ,I would try again .

I would move not worth the mental pain .
 
I'd give the good cop a go, before going bad cop. Just have a word with the neighbour.

Explain politely and considerately the impact her behaviour is having and, you're not prepared to put up with noise/anti-social behaviour. As her how she would feel if the situation was reversed and she had young kids/get up early for work etc.
 
It isn't a case of the Police cannot be bothered, it is a case of the Law that was enacted by Parliament gives NO powers to the Police to enforce Loud Music or noise coming from someones house. What would you like? A Police Force that can do absolutely whatever they want and enter anyones property whenever they want without a warrant OR A Police Force that actually has to work within the law? You cannot have it both ways.

Now if there was some form of Disturbance going on as in a fight or an affray or violent disorder - fair enough there is legislation that allows the Police to act. Now you could lie and say that there is a disturbance such as this going on. But think for a minute. Could you live with yourself if the Police response car crashed on route killing or seriously injuring the Officers or an innocent Motorist or Pedestrian? Thought not.

You say there is a strong smell of Cannabis coming from the Flat, then fair enough ring the Police, you can ring your Local Crimestoppers number - you don't have to give your name or address via this route - the information will be passed onto the Local Officers, who hopefully will follow up the information. This may lead to a warrant being executed on the property.

The correct method of dealing with incidents like this has already been posted by Von Smallhausen.
 
Neodite said:
I would have thought thats how all stations should operate or is that just me? Think your cops would have a road trip to the midlands? :p
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Biohazard said:
Richie - The police generally don't do anything until the council have been round with a DB meter afaik.
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Andy90 said:
It isn't a case of the Police cannot be bothered, it is a case of the Law that was enacted by Parliament gives NO powers to the Police to enforce Loud Music or noise coming from someones house. What would you like? A Police Force that can do absolutely whatever they want and enter anyones property whenever they want without a warrant OR A Police Force that actually has to work within the law? You cannot have it both ways.

Now if there was some form of Disturbance going on as in a fight or an affray or violent disorder - fair enough there is legislation that allows the Police to act.
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Tis unfortunate that the OP is in England. The Police DO have powers in Scotland under S.24 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 which extend the powers of the Civic Government Scotland Act 1982 (section 54).

There is NO need to get the council involved or anyone else. The cops make the call using their discretion.


In laymans terms, and applying these 2 laws to the OP, the following could occur IF HE WAS IN SCOTLAND:


  1. OP contacts police to complain about noise
  2. Police attend address and, on hearing noise* they speak with householder and ask them to stop or turn it down. They are also advised of what will happen if they have to come back (see next part) - Householder guilty of a s54 Civic Government Scotland Act 1982 if they fail to desist
  3. Householder turns it down and police leave.
  4. If noise goes back up then OP contacts police again who re-attend and then removes all noise making equipment from the house which is stored at the police office for upto 28 days. Entry by force is available should householder refuse entry on this occasion - These powers are available using s24 Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

*noise - the noise level must be that which would give any person REASONABLE cause for annoyance

Unfortunaetly, this power (s24) is only available in Scots Law even tho its part of the Crime and Disorder Act for all of UK. Basically the Civic Government Act powers got extended for things like this and this "original" law doesn't exist for England/Wales
 
Richie said:
  1. OP contacts police to complain about noise
  2. Police attend address and, on hearing noise* they speak with householder and ask them to stop or turn it down. They are also advised of what will happen if they have to come back (see next part) - Householder guilty of a s54 Civic Government Scotland Act 1982 if they fail to desist
  3. Householder turns it down and police leave.
  4. If noise goes back up then OP contacts police again who re-attend and then removes all noise making equipment from the house which is stored at the police office for upto 28 days. Entry by force is available should householder refuse entry on this occasion - These powers are available using s24 Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

*noise - the noise level must be that which would give any person REASONABLE cause for annoyance

Unfortunaetly, this power (s24) is only available in Scots Law even tho its part of the Crime and Disorder Act for all of UK. Basically the Civic Government Act powers got extended for things like this and this "original" law doesn't exist for England/Wales
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Why does scotland get all the good laws!?!
 
Richie said:
Tis unfortunate that the OP is in England. The Police DO have powers in Scotland under S.24 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 which extend the powers of the Civic Government Scotland Act 1982 (section 54).

There is NO need to get the council involved or anyone else. The cops make the call using their discretion.


In laymans terms, and applying these 2 laws to the OP, the following could occur IF HE WAS IN SCOTLAND:


  1. OP contacts police to complain about noise
  2. Police attend address and, on hearing noise* they speak with householder and ask them to stop or turn it down. They are also advised of what will happen if they have to come back (see next part) - Householder guilty of a s54 Civic Government Scotland Act 1982 if they fail to desist
  3. Householder turns it down and police leave.
  4. If noise goes back up then OP contacts police again who re-attend and then removes all noise making equipment from the house which is stored at the police office for upto 28 days. Entry by force is available should householder refuse entry on this occasion - These powers are available using s24 Crime and Disorder Act 1998.

*noise - the noise level must be that which would give any person REASONABLE cause for annoyance

Unfortunaetly, this power (s24) is only available in Scots Law even tho its part of the Crime and Disorder Act for all of UK. Basically the Civic Government Act powers got extended for things like this and this "original" law doesn't exist for England/Wales
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How does the police man know or judge what is 'reasonable' and what is perhaps a 'moany' complainer?

I'm only going on the experiences friends have had, and it wasn't that.
 
Without reading the thread if it's a council property she lives in or they live in complain to the council and get them moved on we did and it worked.
 
Biohazard said:
How does the police man know or judge what is 'reasonable' and what is perhaps a 'moany' complainer?

I'm only going on the experiences friends have had, and it wasn't that.
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The cops have to hear it and deem it so that any reasonable person would consider it "so as to give any other person reasonable cause for annoyance"

Its down to their discretion.
 
[TW]Fox;15695704 said:
Move.

Sure, people will flame me for that but seriously, its not as if she's going to change into an Oxbridge graduate overnight is it? You are ALWAYS going to have issues.
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Assuming the OP has bought his flat and considering how the market has been recently and that he has a 14mth year old this wouldn't be ideal. Unfortunately this is one of the problems you have with living in flats and one of the reasons why I can't wait to get a house :( (even though this could still happen!)

More than likely she is renting and will bog off sooner rather than later.

Von Smallhausen said:
Nuneaton Council. Ask for the anti-social dept or who ever deals with noisy neighbours. 024 7637 6376.

Keep a diary. Make a note of dates, times, excess noise, parties etc.

As for the mention of cannabis use, ring your local nick and find out who the local beat officer is. You could always arrange a meeting with him / her to discuss your problem.
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This ^^^ is the best advice.

I had two complaint letters and I never had any parties, turned out the guy who lived below me was a nutter. He told me soooo many lies and ended up moving out - thank goodness!

I was told to keep all noise between 7am - 11pm and no later.

Contact your council they should speak to them.

BB x
 
noisy neighbours ruin lives and make people anxious and depressed in their own homes, these people are the scum of the earth and more powers should be in place to deal with them. I feel for you OP ive been there myself it is absolutely terrible and something you can only genuinely understand if you have been a victim of it yourself. Set the ball rolling asap with the environmental health/council.

Its a slow process expect it to take a few weeks before they install monitoring equipment in your home for a few days, once you record some examples of the noise they can then take legal action against them, they will send them an asbo type thing telling them that if they make noise again they are breaking the law. You will get two special phone numbers for field agents, if the noise happens again you call one number if its in the day and another number if its at night, they will come to your house to see and hear it in person and then thats when they will get raped with legal proceedings incorporating the removal of stereo etc and breach of asbo.

Be strong and do it the right way, i lost count of the times id hammered on the door only for them to pipe down for about ten mins and then go back to normal (to be fair i live in a terraced house and the walls are paper thin but these guys were scum and the house was used as a doss house for the local chavs)
 
Next time it happens, get all the annoyed neighbours together and all go knock on her door. If you present a united front and don't take no for an answer she might get the idea your all serious.

Im suprised noones mentioned pasty smashing yet..
 
nobody has mentioned smashing pasty because its highly inappropriate, this is a serious matter that is ruining this poor blokes homelife and his peace and quiet lets keep it serious
 
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