People aren't going to understand ml any better.
There isn't a universal drunkness quotient.
Conservatives want to abolish alcohol units system
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People aren't going to understand ml any better.
There isn't a universal drunkness quotient.
You've contradicted yourself.. if you really understand the units system, then you'll know it is *directly* linked to the volume content as 1 unit = 1 centiliter. :/
As a measurement yeah, ask someone to pour a cl of alcohol into a cup, compared to a unit and more will get it right.
That doesn't even remotely suggest to people how strong their drink is though. Knowing how much 1cl is has no bearing on knowing how drunk 1cl of alcohol will get you or how strong your 1cl drink is.
I've only learned that today. Which proves my point that you don't need to know it, to understand how strong a drink is.
But a bottle tells you how many ml are in it and giving alcohol in ml gives a good measure, easy to understand and easy to compare to the ml of the drink..
Who any thing about drunkenness quota?
It's about providing information people can understand.
Okay so a person understands that the drink has 2cl of alcohol. Great. But what does that MEAN to him? How does he magically know how drunk it will make him? Because that is the point, isn't it?
No but it is easily comparable to ml in a bottle.and learn how strong different drinks are, without ever knowing or needing to know how many cl of alcohol is present in those drinks. I am well familiar with units and I could accurately estimate the units in many drinks, from experience. (Not just the units, but also the effect those amount of units will have on me.) I have no idea what the cl content is though, it isn't important.[/QUOTE]
But they don't understand if they haven't learnt now they aren't going to. what is the point of information, if people can't understand it.
No, it has nothing to do with drunkenness.
It's so people know how much alcohol they are consuming. Information that is not understood is useless.
Ditto; but with units and not cl.. same number, just with the 'cl' scrubbed off.
You're missing the point that that information doesn't change anything.
If the average person looks at a bottle of wine and sees 'oh it has 10cl of alcohol' how is that any more helpful for them to assess how drunk it will get them or strong it is than 'oh it has 10 units'?
There is no reference point for them to connect to, nothing that will give anyone a clue what 10cl means in terms of how drunk it will make you.
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Why can't you have both? I think the calorie content information will open a few people's eyes. Not that it'll stop people drinking, they'll just feel more guilty whilst drinking and therefore drink more 
If you are implying that simply working out the exact volume of alcohol in a drink by calculating the volume from it's percentage is as easy as just having the volume of alcohol shown on the label then.. well, you can work out the rest.Surely that's what the percentage is for?
You can't get your head around a simple scheme of being told that your drink has x units in it?
I personally feel this is a bad move. If they wanted to display cl of alcohol alongside then fine. Still largely pointless, but fine.
If anything it'll stop the confusion of "how much is a unit?!" that I've heard and argued with people about a million and one times.
Well with units we've had a few decades of learning and advertising.
With cl no one will have a clue, bar the people who know a unit is a cl anyway.
You really don't get it do you. I don't know how much simpler I can explain it.
Thats a product of, as has been mentioned, the poor labelling by the drinks industry.
If 100% of products had a 'unit' rating on, then there wouldn't be an argument, because it'd be right there.
Likewise, if only 50% of products have a 'cl of alcohol' on, there will still be arguments over how many cl are in a drink.
what that people don't care and it has no meaning as to how drunk you become. I get that, that's not the point.
It's about giving people information they understand. Units fails at this.
Surely that is the EXACT point, as what else would you hope to ascertain from a unit or cl reading?
cl isn't any more useful at telling people how strong their drink is than units is, as it no frame of reference to them. Knowing that an 11cl bottle of wine is stronger than a 10cl is no different to knowing an 11 unit bottle is stronger than a 10 unit bottle.
But if someone doesn't understand how drunk 2cl is going to make them, how is it useful?