Deadlift form check

They work for me, i find my grip is a lot better, especially considering my gym is in my garage and there is no heater.

Edit: I work with dumbbells and barbells too.
 
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I see people wearing gloves and straps when it isn't necesary.

If you find your grip is failing on your last set then by all means if you want to wear them. But for that last set. There's no point wearing them for the first two where your natural grip will suffice.

Using them for pushing exercises just inst necesary unless you were using a really thick bar. In which case you'd probaly be best of with chalk.

Two things I'd like to use. More specifically a really thick bar. I've seen that Christian Thibaudeau uses them quite frequently. I think big bars look awesome too :p
 
Benny06 said:
If you find your grip is failing on your last set then by all means if you want to wear them. But for that last set. There's no point wearing them for the first two where your natural grip will suffice.
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Varies from person to person though, you can make do without it, but the other person might not be able to, they may feel more comfortable wearing gloves, it's a personal choice, and as long as they can complete the training session using proper form and gaining progress, then it doesn't matter whether they are wearing gloves or not.
 
If you can't make do without it you need to work on your grip. End of. Of course your grip is better with gloves, it takes the work out of your hand for doing it. Even more unecessary for pushing exercises. If you're doing your last set or a 1RM then I can accept gloves - but I'd rather use straps.

Benny, I'm the same, big fan of thick bars. Makes using the thin one MUCH easier.

I think if you can't hold 200kg without straps or gloves you've got grip work to work on. I don't mean you have to DL it, you can just rack it and hold onto it. It's worrying how so many people try and lift without having the forearm/wrist/grip strength to actually hold onto the bar. Is it just me that thinks grip and overall strength are synergistically linked?
 
'Wes said:
Varies from person to person though, you can make do without it, but the other person might not be able to, they may feel more comfortable wearing gloves, it's a personal choice, and as long as they can complete the training session using proper form and gaining progress, then it doesn't matter whether they are wearing gloves or not.
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Very true :)

The majority of people I tend to see using gloves usually are lifting with poor form because the weights too heavy, which is why they're wearing gloves. Because they want the big 20's on either end for rowing etc.

I'm not generalising that everyone who wears gloves has bad form. When I first started training I used them briefly. Every pair I brought, even golds gym heavy duty ones fell apart. Not to mention they begin to absolutley stink! even with regular washing. So I gave up and have gone 'el natural' apart from strapping up for heavy deadlifts as much as I don't want to.

Edit: My grip does need addressing. While it's not weak it's not as strong as I like. I have held onto 150KG before deadlifting, but strap up due to the fact I wish to focus on form for the lift as opposed to my grip until its sufficient to not be something to consciously worry about while performing the lift. It's horrible when your lifting and your hands slowly start to open up with each rep. Hopefully the 'false' grip I've started using might help this a bit.

I deffinatley think grip and overall strength are related. I remember when I first used 30KG DB's in our gym, the handles get bigger and are completely sylindrical not ergonomically shaped. It gives the forearms a bit of a working out balancing the weight as it doesn't 'sit' in your palm like a normal grip will. Unfortunatley after 37.5KG to 45KG they return to the standard thinner grip :(

Think I'll add improving grip strength to my targets for this year too.

If I ever (so so so so so want to) have a home gym it'll be thick bars and even thicker DB handles.
 
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Freefaller said:
If you can't make do without it you need to work on your grip.
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Not really, it may feel more comfortable on the hands. Some people have sensitive hands, therefore they may react with certain materials, create cuts, blisters that may become worse off and tend to never fully recover.
 
Stop being such a pussy then! :D

Ok I was generalising a little, but my point remains, that grip strength is linked to overall strength, and a lot of people use gloves to bypass a weakness.

I'm not saying this is true in your case, just in general terms that very much is the case. You may well be the exception that makes the rule though - so apologies for the generalisation.

However, I still think you ought to work on your grip strength more if you feel you struggle without gloves for light weights. :)
 
Early days i used to do it without gloves, i used to get small cuts and blisters on my hands and they weren't recovering properly, so i ended up buying some gloves and purchased equipment to work on my grip strength (equipment that doesn't require gloves and is easy on the hands).
 
Using gloves reduces gains made in grip strength. End of.

If grip strength isn't important to you, that's fine. But it's like saying you don't work back much because you don't need it to be muscular as you never see it. Grip strength is integral to well balanced resistance program, as well as making the work you do in the gym actually functional.

Freefaller said:
It's worrying how so many people try and lift without having the forearm/wrist/grip strength to actually hold onto the bar. Is it just me that thinks grip and overall strength are synergistically linked?
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Not at all. What's the point in having a lower back capable of moving serious weight if your wrist flexors are incapable of holding it. It's like using a belt for every set. Personal bests, heavy fatigue or injury are the only reason you need gloves as far as I'm concerned.

The burn I get in my forearms can be really intense, and on a par with the pain I get in legs (well almost :p) I reckon this is what puts a lot of chaps off. As well as the hard hands. I've got not shame in admitting I moisturise my hands, it stops the skin sheering on the bar and means that when it comes to meandering through the lady garden I don't have great leathery maulers smashing through the foliage :p

Ant :cool:
 
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Robbie G said:
In what way just out of interest?

Question their value or find difficult to perform?
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The youtube link I posted made a huge difference in my technique as I have found them very lower back orientated in the past, But that was where I was doing it wrong! I just couldn't understand peoples advise properly and found it very confusing/off putting. Now I'm doing it proberly I'm finding no lower back strain at all and all the work in my hams and sholders:). I'm currently blasting through 5x5 with 200 kilos with straps and no belt :eek:last Monday and this Monday. In Febuary I should be able to push out a monster PB:).

As others have said once you get the technique it just clicks, sadly it has taken me a long time to find it.
 
'Wes said:
Early days i used to do it without gloves, i used to get small cuts and blisters on my hands and they weren't recovering properly, so i ended up buying some gloves and purchased equipment to work on my grip strength (equipment that doesn't require gloves and is easy on the hands).
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I find gloves wreck my grip for some reson :o, so only use them on and off when doing arm days.
 
^TANK^ said:
The youtube link I posted made a huge difference in my technique as I have found them very lower back orientated in the past, But that was where I was doing it wrong! I just couldn't understand peoples advise properly and found it very confusing/off putting. Now I'm doing it proberly I'm finding no lower back strain at all and all the work in my hams and sholders:). I'm currently blasting through 5x5 with 200 kilos with straps and no belt :eek:last Monday and this Monday. In Febuary I should be able to push out a monster PB:).

As others have said once you get the technique it just clicks, sadly it has taken me a long time to find it.
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Worth the wait though eh? When you're pulling up over 1/5 of a tonne with your bare hands it just feels awesome :cool:
 
A lot of people do and substitute it for good form. Good on you though for digging deep and doing it. Proud of you. :) (but a bit ****ed off as it means you'll be over taking me very soon :mad: :( (well at Deads which is about the only thing I have over you! :p)).
 
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