Nick Griffin on Haiti

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Cant say I agree with this guy on a regular basis but this certainly makes sense to me. With us being left the bill for the bankers **** ups and the recent hike in VAT what do they really expect us to donate, shirt buttons ?

Heres the speech he gave to the European parliament on the recent disaster in Haiti :

The horror of Haiti is shocking, and it is only human to feel compassion for the innocent victims of this natural disaster.

All here are well paid – and can afford to give. I will give my attendance allowance for today, if every other British M.E.P. will do the same. But our constituents cannot afford your generosity with their taxes.

Globalism has destroyed our industries, the banks have ruined our economies, EU red-tape is strangling our entrepreneurs and the carbon tax scam is plunging millions into deadly fuel poverty.

The death toll in Haiti is shocking, but this winter more than 50,000 pensioners in Britain alone will die premature deaths because of the cold and the cost of heating. Across Europe the death toll will run into hundreds of thousands.

But because the truth shames the political elite, and because it highlights the inconvenient truth of global cooling, this scandal will be buried as quietly as our elderly dead.

Hundreds of thousands of our own people are dying because of government neglect and EU Cold Taxes, yet you insist on throwing other people´s money at a disaster in someone else´s backyard. This is not compassion, it is stinking hypocrisy.

I know this place is uneasy with our Christian heritage but, as always, our Bible reveals an eternal truth that most here would rather ignore: 1st Book of Timothy 5. 8:

“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
 
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I disagree, it's all a question of proportion. Unfortunately old people will die in winter time - it's the natural order of things. In Britain too we have the winter fuel allowance so there shouldn't be any financial reason why British pensioners do not have adequate heating. What happened and is continuing to happen in Haiti otoh is simply horrible and the world must do what it can.

It seems to me that Griffin is as bad as Richard Dawkins here - exploiting the Haitian earthquake to further their own cause. It's completely unacceptable.
 
"I will give my attendance allowance for today, if every other British M.E.P. will do the same."

Why should it matter if they'll give or not. He is either willing to or he isn't.

Our country might be a bit of a mess but some crazed extremist isn't going to make it any better.
 
I disagree, it's all a question of proportion. Unfortunately old people will die in winter time - it's the natural order of things. In Britain too we have the winter fuel allowance so there shouldn't be any financial reason why British pensioners do not have adequate heating. What happened and is continuing to happen in Haiti otoh is simply horrible and the world must do what it can.

It seems to me that Griffin is as bad as Richard Dawkins here - exploiting the Haitian earthquake to further their own cause. It's completely unacceptable.

Are earthquakes not the natural order of things ?
 
"I will give my attendance allowance for today, if every other British M.E.P. will do the same."

Why should it matter if they'll give or not. He is either willing to or he isn't.

Our country might be a bit of a mess but some crazed extremist isn't going to make it any better.

I think he was trying to make a point. If the bigwigs and conman politicians arent willing to make donations why should they plead to the public who make a lot less and can ill afford it.
 
I disagree, it's all a question of proportion. Unfortunately old people will die in winter time - it's the natural order of things. In Britain too we have the winter fuel allowance so there shouldn't be any financial reason why British pensioners do not have adequate heating. What happened and is continuing to happen in Haiti otoh is simply horrible and the world must do what it can.

It seems to me that Griffin is as bad as Richard Dawkins here - exploiting the Haitian earthquake to further their own cause. It's completely unacceptable.

Completely agree with everything said in the quoted post. Its utterly unacceptable to just simply ignore the plight of millions of people who cannot help themselves when such a massive natural disaster strikes. It's not their fault their country was destroyed by a large earthquake.

Giving money to the cause, especially in such a bad economic climate is seriously heart warming, and shows the world what compassion for each other instead of hate can do. THIS will be the future of the world, not individual states which ignore events in other nations because its deemed "a waste of money"
 
There is a somewhat tempting grain of truth in what he says, but the fact is that despite our economic crises, banking failures, idiot governments, etc, we still have far more money to spare than Haiti does. We still enjoy a very high standard of living compared to the rest of the world. From that point of view, I simply fail to see any legitimate ethical argument against us giving aid to those worse off than us.
 
As the first Christian (IIRC?) in this thread:

Nick Griffin stop trying to use christianity to support you, we do not support you in any way shape or form. You are a racist little douche.


Now back on with the thread...
 
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I somehow get the feeling it is another example of someone trying their damnedest to turn the natural disaster into their gain. I think it's quite sad.

The majority of people who will give money to aid charitys aren't going to wait for his or anyone elses blessing, people know how much they can afford to give (or not give).

If what he is honestly saying is if he was in power he would refuse to send aid to a country that has been destroyed by a natural disaster thats another reason i'm glad he isn't in that position.

Perhaps i'm reading too much into it, but i don't like the guy and think most of what he says and stands for is bile.
 
His view is selfish. We have so much compared to others, all over the world. I can only see him trying to use this to his own advantage and hook some of the more short sighted or selfish voters out there. I think it's completely unacceptable that he is attempting to use such a tragedy in this way.
 
It's all about Britain looking good to the rest of the world. I very much doubt the politicians are sitting there thinking of the terrible situation the people in Haiti are currently in, more about what other countries are thinking of their generosity. Or maybe I'm just a cynical person. :p
 
It's all about Britain looking good to the rest of the world. I very much doubt the politicians are sitting there thinking of the terrible situation the people in Haiti are currently in, more about what other countries are thinking of their generosity. Or maybe I'm just a cynical person. :p

Motive is irrelevant. If money is being donated, why does motive matter?
 
:rolleyes:

You do realise what Britain has offered to donate despite being a big individual sum, is in-fact the equivilent of shirt-buttons at the international? What Britain has pledged will probably help transport equipment, and feed people for a few days, but that's about it. You can forget about rebuilding infrastructure.

Nick Griffin is an idiotic, opportunistic tit who doesn't know what the hell he's raving on about half the time. 'Globalism' destroyed our industry? Haha! He's playing those who'll listen and don't know any better for fools. As it seems, that includes you.

It doesn't reflect well on you either for falling for the blatently obvious propoganda. Invoking the weak, poor old, British elderly for a sympathy vote? Going for the tight-fisted popular fiscal angle?

For crying out loud! Think with your head, not your stomach; it's what it's there for.
 
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