Poll: Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

Which party will get your vote in the General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 704 38.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 221 12.1%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 297 16.2%

  • British National Party

    Votes: 144 7.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 36 2.0%

  • UK Independence Party

    Votes: 46 2.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 48 2.6%

  • Don't care I have no intension of voting.

    Votes: 334 18.3%
  • Total voters
    1,830
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Sumanji said:
Wow, over 7% of OcUK users condone facism - rock on, Nazi Germany!

I'd be interested in comparing that figure against other forums ;)
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correction

7% of ocukers that read GD and feel the need to show their political alignment support the BNp.

Not got quite the same ring to it though I'll admit.
 
Sumanji said:
Wow, over 7% of OcUK users condone facism - rock on, Nazi Germany!

I'd be interested in comparing that figure against other forums ;)
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The figures have actually got me quite hopeful that the Tories might not have such an all-encompassing victory as I thought. This forum does seem heavily slanted to the right so if the two leftish parties can garner that many votes here, they might at least be an effective opposition when it's applied nationwide.

Also britboy - I probably agree with most of your political positions, but you really need to learn how to argue :)
 
Masterdog said:
In relation the other parties, they are leftish. Certainly on the reasons I prefer them to the Tories they're on the left (Europe, tax, etc).
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If Labour is more 'leftish', tell me what exactly is socially democratic about increasing taxes of the poor, then handing back those taxes to the same people in the form of overlapping benefits, thereby wasting money by administering those benefits and trapping the absolute poorest into a state-dependency trap, with institutional disincentives to work and earn?

What is socially democratic about widening the gap between the rich and the poor, in terms of wealth, education and health?

What is socially democratic about reluctance to reform Parliament and the electoral system?

What is socially democratic about wholesaling power of Government to the EU, without consulting society's opinion on the matter?
 
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Masterdog said:
Are you trying to suggest that the Tories are to the left of Labour?
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My opinion is that LabCon are essentially centre-right, scrapping to become centrists, and only the Lib Dems can really claim to be slightly left of them.



Why does everything in this forum have to become an point-twisting argument?
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It is a debate, and I am challenging your statement that:

In relation the other parties, [Labour] are leftish.
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You may well be right. And I might prefer a Lib Dem government to a Labour one, certainly. Just saying I've more in common with either of them than the Tories.
 
britboy4321 said:
The tories don't know which 9 jobs to cut. They've asked the management to tell them. The management have answered 'We don't know which 9 jobs to cut'.

What now?
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Bring in someone independent to evaluate productivity and usefulness, along with sacking the management by the sound of it.
 
robgmun said:
because you haven't brought anything to the table that's compelling in 2 days now, where i have sent you links, you have just spouted continous hyperbole about other parties without being about you back any of it up...

You continously avoided the difficult questions that would show you up for days now
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britboy4321 said:
The tories don't know which 9 jobs to cut. They've asked the management to tell them. The management have answered 'We don't know which 9 jobs to cut'.

What now?
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Hatter The Mad said:
Source?
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britboy4321 said:
TBH getting rid of the sauce from the canteen will barely make a scratch on the budget.

Like your thinking though.
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Dolph said:
Bring in someone independent to evaluate productivity and usefulness, along with sacking the management by the sound of it.
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Bringing someone in independent means 'consultants'. It means Andersons, or PWC, or independents. These people of course cost between £600 and £1200 a day (as Joe Bloggs from the pub wouldn't know where to start).

And believe me, this is the problem, they won't really know any more than anyone else which members of staff are watching youtube and which are working. In fact they'll know a lot less than the people who have actually worked there for 15 years!! Think about it -- you wander into a department you've never been in before -- everyone is nervous so they're madly working. You task .. 'Sack the losers'. What next? No-one admits they don't work that hard. You can't tell who has done what work. You're screwed. I know, I've worked a LOT with these guys. They just make it up, basically use gut feel to choose 'Phil stays, Gary goes', and say 'thanks very much' for the £4200 a week (and 'farm the account' -- say they need another 5 consultants in to do the job properly).

Consultants are the people management/directors/governments get in when they haven't got a clue -- the consultants just basically make stuff up and sound very confident and use words like 'PRINCE 2' and 'SYNERGY OF QUALITY AND MEASUREMENT', make a pretty powerpoint diagram and spout to the management. Then take home their £800 (or whatever) a day, thanks very much Mr Taxpayer I think I'll buy yet another plasma screen with your money from today.

I'm amazed this is your grand plan for how the tories are going to 'save money'.

oh, did I mention, I'm a consultant!
 
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