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PhoenixUK said:
85 aint same as 70 still isnt it ? : ).
And I wonder what's the case/ram/psu combo in the main i3 thread.
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4ghz was done with this mobo ...read the thread


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-234-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1124

And again, x2 and x3 has a lot connection to it. You're missing the point here totally. It's not BS it's a fact, get over it or leave it - you can get an am3 x2 setup for half the i3 setup price that will be more than adequate for most people needs - simple as that and there is nothing you can do about unless you write a letter to intel and they decide to drop the i3 price to 60quid and their mobos price to 50quid.
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But thats the point.

"adequate for most people needs"


Who Cares

This thread is about AMD performance V Intel Peformance at the same price point.

I3 wins


Of course one can buy cheaper but this is not what this thread is about.

I can get 25 FPS on my sempron?


Get a Grip
 
PhoenixUK said:
Your basket
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz (Clarkdale) (Socket LGA1156) - Retail Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz (Clarkdale) (Socket LGA1156) - Retail £98.00
(£83.40) £98.00
(£83.40)
Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 Intel P55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 microATX Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 Intel P55 (Socket 1156) DDR3 microATX Motherboard £85.99
(£73.18) £85.99
(£73.18)
Patriot Sector 5 Viper II 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-12800 1600MHz Dual Channel + 3D Mark Vantage (PVV34G1600LLKB) Patriot Sector 5 Viper II 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-12800 1600MHz Dual Channel + 3D Mark Vantage (PVV34G1600LLKB) £82.76
(£70.43) £82.76
(£70.43)
Sub Total : £227.01
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £9.00
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £41.30
Total : £277.31


VS

Product Name Qty Price Line Total
Patriot Sector 5 Viper II 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-12800 1600MHz Dual Channel + 3D Mark Vantage (PVV34G1600LLKB) Patriot Sector 5 Viper II 4GB (2x2GB) PC3-12800 1600MHz Dual Channel + 3D Mark Vantage (PVV34G1600LLKB) £82.76
(£70.43) £82.76
(£70.43)
VTX ATI Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail VTX ATI Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail £73.99
(£62.97) £73.99
(£62.97)
Asus M4A785TD-M Evo AMD 785G (Socket AM3) DDR3 microATX Motherboard Asus M4A785TD-M Evo AMD 785G (Socket AM3) DDR3 microATX Motherboard £69.99
(£59.57) £69.99
(£59.57)
AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core 240 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail AMD Athlon II X2 Dual Core 240 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £46.99
(£39.99) £46.99
(£39.99)
Sub Total : £232.96
Shipping cost assumes delivery to UK Mainland with:
DPD Next Day Parcel
(This can be changed during checkout) Shipping : £9.00
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £42.34
Total : £284.30


Which one will do better in gaming mr blinkered?
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easyrider said:
This thread is about AMD performance V Intel Peformance at the same price point.

I3 wins
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....... NOT :))).


PS. 2x ram slot mobo is a fail.
 
DavyBoy said:
You're just nitpicking because easy is right.
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Indeed Davyboy he is,

BS post 2 pages ago doing exactly the same thing.

And yes

You are correct. I am right

Backed up with DATA , benchies and Dons on this very forum clocking i3 to 4ghz with ease.


In conclusion:

i3 makes a fine gaming platform.
At no real extra cost to Athlon II

But in benchies...i3 spanks the Athlon II X4 and comes in at the same price point.

AMD offer bang for buck...But you get less PC for your money.

Fact
 
I was only gone a day and look what happens! :eek::p

I am going to attempt to moderate this thread . . . First things first . . . . anyone who has posted competitor prices or stock availability can you please go back and edit them out because otherwise your going to be banned!


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Secondly . . . and just as importantly . . . may I politely request to anyone that *gets* this thread and would like it not to be closed . . . no matter what easyrider says to you in this specific thread please do not respond or quote him . . .

I'm not sure if I said that clearly enough so I break it down again in a different format

  • You want the thread to stay open = Do not respond to him
  • You want this thread to be closed = Respond/Quote him
It's very important to me that you understand this, you can do what you like in another thread but with regards to this one single thread I would be very, very grateful indeed for your co-operation! :)

I'm going to make another post in a minute, gotta get a drink sorted out! :cool:

P.S: Don't forget what I have just said above! ;)
 
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easyrider said:
Have you read this thread?

i3 is faster than 620 in games and yet its the same price but offers performance.



You claim some of it is crap then sheepishly ask for advice from the very people you choose to insult?



Might want to announce what your budget is?
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Sub £175 inc. after market cooler.
And remind me where I asked for advice there?
Similarly, wtf are you on about that its the same price? Its more expensive than a 620 AND the mobo is more expensive. . .
 
Topic Reminder:

AMD® Athlon™ II X4 620 and Intel® Core™ i7 920

I don't want any other hardware in this thread please, if someone wants to be useful then if you could drag as many comparisons across of the above two chips that will be very useful . . . .

To the people that don't understand this comparison please feel free to start your own thread . . . . No more Off Topic Hardware/Raving/Baiting/Trashing please! :D

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OcUK forums as seen from outer space!
 
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Off Topic:

"This thread is about AMD performance V Intel Peformance at the same price point"
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I love the fact someone thinks they can come into a thread and change the topic because they don't understand the topic . . , that's cracked me up! :D
 
Topic Reminder:

All the anti-AMD younglings . . . if you want to do something useful in this thread here is my suggestion, link up any benchmarks you can find, I want to see some the Intel® Core™ i7 920 giving the AMD® Athlon™ II X4 620 a good tonking!

Thanks in advance! :cool:
 
I think the point of this thread has been lost in the midst of all this banter, arguing, etc. It states, in a nutshell, "is an i7 system performance is worth twice as much as that of an Athlon II X4 system?". Ppl here are arguing that the comparison should be with an i3 not i7, but thats not the point that I believe Wayne is trying to make.
I personally think theres not a lot of point to overclocking to 4ghz which a lot of ppl have mentioned, "unless the person can utilize that overclock correctly and reap the benefits", so why is there always this virtual obsession with some ppl with the 4ghz mark, to me its just a figure that is higher than 3.6ghz 'frinstance.:)
 
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Big.Wayne said:
Secondly . . . and just as importantly . . . may I politely request to anyone that *gets* this thread and would like it not to be closed . . . no matter what easyrider says to you in this specific thread please do not respond or quote him . . .
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I think you're out of order here. You evidently disagree with him and feel he is trying to derail this thread. He feels the initial comparison is as ridiculous as pitching amd's high end against a e5200 would be. However asking everyone to completely ignore your main opposition is an impolite debating strategy, particularly if you've got him set to "ignore" anyway. I shall continue replying to him for as long as he's saying interesting things.

It would perhaps help if you clarified what you hoped for from this thread. A comparison between the x58 920 and the X4 620 just doesn't make much sense to most of us. In terms of raw computational power I demonstrated £/ppd coming out equal for the two options, so all that's left to argue is cost to get a job done which doesn't rely solely on cpu, at which point I'm interested to see why you didn't choose to compare P55/750 vs AM3/620.

On an irrelevant note please turn the writing on Mario's hammer the right way up before posting it again.
 
pieman109 said:
I think the point of this thread has been lost in the midst of all this banter, arguing, etc. It states, in a nutshell, "is an i7 system performance is worth twice as much as that of an Athlon II X4 system?". Ppl here are arguing that the comparison should be with an i3 not i7, but thats not the point that I believe Wayne is trying to make...
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At last - well said that man. It's amazing how many people have missed that point (wilfully or otherwise) and have take the opportunity to derail the thread by steering it onto other topics.

Big.Wayne makes an excellent point in his observation and I have to say that I for one do NOT think the i7 920 is worth twice as much as the x4 620. The very reason I went for the 550 in my new build is that 'value' is higher in my priority list than out and out performance.

Something else to note in this debate - a lot of the arguments for the i7 centre around it's 'encoding' capabilities - undeniably better than the x4 620 - however, given that I, and many others, now do most of our transcoding on the GPU not the CPU - this is no longer such an advantage for the intel product - I could (and have) argue that as CUDA and it's replacement (OpenCL or whatever wins) takes off, the CPU will be less and less relevant in the future, and the days of pure processor performance being worth a premium will disappear - making the x4 620 and its ilk even more attractive.

In future I suspect we will be speccing up rigs where the number of GPU slots is more important than the CPU power, and the price/performance arguments will centre on the various GPUs you slot onto the board, with the CPU being an afterthought!

So... For me it's the x4 620 with the savings spent on a decent GPU all the way for considerably better performance (not just value) for all the things I do (gaming/encoding)
 
Hi Big.Wayne,

Why don't you move the discussion into the AMD overclocking thread, some of the posters would clearly not be interested in going to that thread to begin with.

cavemanoc, i said the exact same thing a while back ;) .
 
I wondered where you got to Wayne, I thought you'd given up on this thread tbh!!

Guess you've been too busy slangin' AMD processors elsewhere you pimp! :p

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JonJ678 said:
I think you're out of order here. You evidently disagree with him and feel he is trying to derail this thread. He feels the initial comparison is as ridiculous as pitching amd's high end against a e5200 would be. However asking everyone to completely ignore your main opposition is an impolite debating strategy, particularly if you've got him set to "ignore" anyway. I shall continue replying to him for as long as he's saying interesting things.
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Some people unfortunately misinterpret discussion with thread trashing.:)

Some people need to realise that its ok to highlight areas of discussion that compel people to post in the first place.
 
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