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ATi OWNED Nvidia Beats Em Even Without Fermi

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Peddler of graphics predictions, Jon Peddie, has released his report on estimated graphics chip shipments and suppliers' market shares for Q4'09, claiming it to be a bumper quarter with a whopping 14 per cent year to year growth, despite the crippling credit crunch.

Peddie reckons shipments were above anyone’s expectations in Q4, although the only clear winner on the graphics front appears to be graphically challenged Intel, tearing up the integrated space, with both Nvidia and AMD getting a taste of the bittersweet in both discrete and IGP offerings.

Looking at the numbers alone, Nvidia’s market share seems to have declined YoY from a healthy 30.6 per cent to a rather more anemic 24.3 per cent. But Peddie says “Nvidia's increases came primarily in desktop discretes, while slipping in desktop and notebook integrated,” which is surprising seeing as AMD are supposed to have the ‘superior’ discrete option with their DX11 capable 5000 series.

AMD, meanwhile, gained a bit of share in the integrated segment, “but lost some market share in discrete in both the desktop and notebook segments due to constraints in 40nm supply.”

Again, this is bizarre, as Nvidia has had the same supply issues as AMD owing to TSMC’s dodgy ramp-age, and has a currently inferior discrete product than its competitor while it waits for TSMC to get its act together and bung Fermi together, so this must really sting for AMD who has lost out to the green queen in market share yet again.

It seems the Radeon HD 5870, HD 5850, HD 5770, HD 5750 and even the almighty HD 5970 were just not enough – or simply just not in enough supply – to tempt punters away from the more widely available 55nm offerings from Nvidia, and that’s even with the temptations of EyeFinity and DX11. Perhaps people don’t care about flashy features as much as AMD thinks they should.

Meanwhile, an Nvidia spokesman told TechEye that whilst the YoY percentages looked a bit grim, owing to losses in the notebook discrete market share, Nvidia was already starting to win it back.

“And it’s equally known that Intel has grown share, largely on the strength of netbook sales,” he added.

He went on to say that the recession had put the entire graphics market “into shock last year, so it’s hard to derive real long-term trends from the data.”

That said, our source does believe discrete attach rates will go up this year – as there are already clear signs of them improving. Indeed, the whole graphics market seems to be improving when we compare 2009’s 14 per cent growth to 2008’s measly six per cent.

“Our desktop discrete share has been relatively stable, and we’re now on the verge of a new product cycle, which should impact share positively,” concluded Nvidia’s spinner, although, Fermi be damned, Nvidia seems to be fending AMD off just fine even with its old tat.

Meanwhile, AMD was doing its best to remain optimistic about the results, with spokesman Dave Erskine telling TechEye “our graphics market share is up year over year. Not only has our overall graphics unit volume nearly doubled in that period of time, we achieved a 40% increase in graphics revenue quarter to quarter.”

“The continued strong demand for ATI Radeon HD 5000 products and a record-setting quarter for ATI Mobility Radeon units shipped are strong indicators that our focus on technology leadership and innovation continues to be an effective strategy,” he added.
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http://www.techeye.net/chips/nvidia-beats-amd-even-without-fermi
 
That nVidia has increased market share in high end discrete and AMD slipped despite AMD having the DX11 5 series isn't propaganda/crap its based on real numbers - as I was saying in another thread several sources show a roughly 2-3% growth for nVidia and 1.5-2% decline for ATI in December.
 
Why don't you just appreciate the fact that there are competitors to NVIDIA and because of this the technology is constantly being pushed forward and great progress has been made over the past couple of years. I for one would hate to see what is it like without the competition.

I really do hope Fermi is a success, not because I only like NVIDIA but because it will push ATI to produce something better.
 
Yeah it's bull, how long have the ATI 5000 cards been out " which were and still are in short supply because of TSMC " compared to NV's 200 cards which they are getting the numbers from, do the math..
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah it's bull, how long have the ATI 5000 cards been out " which were and still are in short supply because of TSMC " compared to NV's 200 cards which they are getting the numbers from, do the math..
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Even if you take the numbers from Dec in isolation... which should by all indications shows ATI's 5 series taking off... infact you see the complete opposite... whether that trend will continue through Q1 who knows.
 
LMAO, NV cards are but non existent, so how punters are tempted confuses me, whilst most ATI 5000 cards sell out no problem, completely biased article when it claims 55nm chips are out selling ATI cards when there are virtually none NV 55nm cards on the market.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah it's bull, how long have the ATI 5000 cards been out " which were and still are in short supply because of TSMC " compared to NV's 200 cards which they are getting the numbers from, do the math..
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So AMD's plan to rush out 5xxx before christmas has backfired then? they would've probably got more sales/market share sticking with the 4xxx series until yields were better.
 
When AMD were clearly top dog in the processor war with Intel they only acquired small market share. It takes a long time to build a well known and respected brand (or a lot of backhanders to PC manufacturers), and the maker of the best product does not always win.
 
overall it may be right, although for enthusiasts like ourselves that use things like futuremark products ati's perormance offerings seem very healthy by their graphs. will be fun to see what happens when fermi is actually released. although im sure just as with ati's higher performance chips the amount of fermi's that ship wont even dent the wider picture percentages.
 
Below quote shows how sucking up to NV this read is, I'm done with this crap.


It seems the Radeon HD 5870, HD 5850, HD 5770, HD 5750 and even the almighty HD 5970 were just not enough – or simply just not in enough supply – to tempt punters away from the more widely available 55nm offerings from Nvidia, and that’s even with the temptations of EyeFinity and DX11. Perhaps people don’t care about flashy features as much as AMD thinks they should.
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RavenXXX2 said:
LMAO, NV cards are but non existent, so how punters are tempted confuses me, whilst most ATI 5000 cards sell out no problem, completely biased article when it claims 55nm chips are out selling ATI cards when there are virtually none NV 55nm cards on the market.
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Bias or not... the figures its based on are not (and are correct).
 
Two things.

a) A lot of people are waiting for Fermi before committing.
b) ATI cards were in very short supply.

Hence the low attach rates.
 
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