Supaguard - Fact or Fiction?

JBod · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:10

As a result of this thread:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18107954

I am ordering a Honda Civic Si 1.8 VTEC today (negged a £2100 discount). Of course one of the options is to Supaguard or not to Supaguard?

What are peoples opinions? A lot of places state it is a con, costs maybe £10 - £50 for the product and the rest is lining the salesman pocket... and on top of that it is no better than a good quality wax?

(please keep opinions about car choice, financial decisions etc... to yourself... just a Supaguard thread... thanks

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SeatIbiza · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:14

Is supaguard on the paint or itnerior?

I think the general consensus over deal applied treatements is avoid and get a proper detailer if you are that bothered...

LiE · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:17

You could apply it yourself. No guarantee that the dealer won't **** it up or do a poor job.

panthro · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:23

It is one of the biggest cons in the motor industry.

Matt82 · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:23

my gf agreed to have this put on her fiesta when she bought it. as far as i could tell it was a load of rubbish

antijoke · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:26

panthro said:
It is one of the biggest cons in the motor industry.

Agreed!

I had to sell it.

:/

ginandmilk · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:29

We use Lifeshine but its very similar to Supaguard. True, a lot of the money you pay goes to the salesman.

They'll do the 'treatment' on the exterior and interior and you get a bag of various cleaning sprays / foams / waxes. Try and negotiate a discount on it. The products themselves aren't that expensive, maybe £20 to the dealer but then they have to pay someone to apply it which takes about an hour if you do it properly. Most places charge around £200 for it but there's a big margin in that. Either buy the kit and do it yourself or shoot for a price from the dealer of £75ish, doubt you'll get it loads cheaper.

JBod · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:29

Ok well that is pretty conclusive

Thanks guys.

Any recommendations for DIY? I still got loads of Megs products sitting around.

ginandmilk · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:41

Just keep the car clean of dirt and bird **** where possible then use a decent wax as often as you can be bothered to do it... 3 times a week if you're the 5 series owner who lives down the road from me, though to be fair he only does it that much in the summer.

Maz · 2 Feb 2010 at 10:48

I've sold this for 7 years, I no longer sell cars for a motor dealer and I still believe that this is an excellent product!

It costs the dealer £32.50 for a standard kit or £100 for a premium kit.

So if you can get it for a good price or for free it's definately worth having and will keep it cleaner and easier to clean.

Begbie · 2 Feb 2010 at 12:28

Decent wax, will surely do a better job?

Dogbreath · 2 Feb 2010 at 12:33

Maz said:
I've sold this for 7 years, I no longer sell cars for a motor dealer and I still believe that this is an excellent product!

It costs the dealer £32.50 for a standard kit or £100 for a premium kit.

The dealer would be well advised to visit eBay and buy the basic kit for £13 inc p&p then.

Supaguard and the other similar products are almost pure profit for dealers, which is why they push these treatments so hard.

[TW]Fox · 2 Feb 2010 at 12:35

Maz said:
I've sold this for 7 years, I no longer sell cars for a motor dealer and I still believe that this is an excellent product!

Once a brainwashed salesman always a brainwashed salesman I guess!

Matt82 · 2 Feb 2010 at 12:42

Maz said:
it's definately worth having and will keep it cleaner and easier to clean.

my gf, being a girl didnt bother washing her car for the best part of a year, it came with a supercrap treatment. the roof was stained with dirt that had to be clayed off

Fr0dders · 2 Feb 2010 at 13:41

JBod said:
Ok well that is pretty conclusive Thanks guys.

Any recommendations for DIY? I still got loads of Megs products sitting around.

treat yourself to a new car detail from one of the local detailers.

being new it will be cheaper than a normal detail, and its much easier to keep a new car looking nice if its perfect to start off with.

Have a look over on detailing world

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40246

and find one thats local. Will be about the same price as the supaguard treatment, but for that they'll get the car immaculate the paintwork like glass as opposed to just lobbing some very cheap sealant on the car.

*edit*

like so

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=136002

Sin_Chase · 2 Feb 2010 at 13:47

My car has it, supposedly. It's probably what caused paint marring on my wing that the dealer had to get resprayed.

Waste of time.

Jamous · 2 Feb 2010 at 20:19

Great product, but overpriced if bought with a car. Kit alone sells out for £80, iirc it's often around £300 bought pre-aplied to a car but all involved- salesman and usually valeter get a cut, with the majority going to the salesman (remember comission is everything to them!)

86JR · 2 Feb 2010 at 20:22

I bought a pack of it on an online auction site for around £20. The proper one, with the sponge you pierce. Did one of my old cars with it as its red and i spent a lot of time working in a pub by the sea.

Sold car 4 years ago, saw it the other day and it looked exactly the same condition paint wise, even though rest of it was trashed.

Seemed to work. Havent bothered on any other cars.

Jamous · 2 Feb 2010 at 20:23

It's a whole kit with paint, interior, carpet and leather treatment.

Maz · 2 Feb 2010 at 20:25

Dogbreath said:
The dealer would be well advised to visit eBay and buy the basic kit for £13 inc p&p then.

Supaguard and the other similar products are almost pure profit for dealers, which is why they push these treatments so hard.

Think a valeter has nicked a few boxes and selling them for buttons!