GFs Religion

If your brought up within it - its pretty difficult to break away from it - especially if other members of your family continue with it. I don't understand why anyone still follows it tho.

It's not difficult at all.

I was brought up a strict muslim, but then one day I just had a revelation. Why am I wasting my time with something which isn't proven. My life is much better now.
 
You've been together 2 years and you hadn't talked about your respective beliefs?

I've never talked about beleifs with my girlfriend. Which I guess suggests neither of us are bothered about that sort of thing.

She thinks my beleifs are that BMW's are divine, I would imagine.
 
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It's not difficult at all.

I was brought up a strict muslim, but then one day I just had a revelation. Why am I wasting my time with something which isn't proven. My life is much better now.

Its not difficult for some people no - but I'd say that was the exception rather than the rule - if that way of life is all you know its a big step to walk away from it.

I took a stand at around 11 - but other members of my family are either still stuck in it (even tho I know they have no interest) or didn't get away til they'd been working for a while and had friends, income, etc. away from it all to fall back on - which I'm guessing is about where this girl is now.
 
Guess that makes me an ignorant SOAB too.

Certain members of my family have been abused by people claiming to be devout Christians (including two priests). So I'm perfectly fine with thinking they're a lot that should be given a wide berth.

You know what the worst thing is? Those same family members still adhere to their faith. It's vile and it's repulsive, and it makes me really question humanity sometimes.

So if they'd been abused by atheists, atheism would be vile and repulsive? Yup, makes perfect sense :rolleyes:
 
This doesn't sound like any branch of Christianity I've heard of, and I know my way round the faith pretty well.

Sounds weird, to be honest.
 
This doesn't sound like any branch of Christianity I've heard of, and I know my way round the faith pretty well.

Sounds weird, to be honest.

It could be one of the smaller Evangelical churches. Friend of mine I used to work with was involved with one, had links to some Canadian churches and the Church elders heavily encouraged marriage only within the church.
 
This doesn't sound like any branch of Christianity I've heard of, and I know my way round the faith pretty well.

Sounds weird, to be honest.

This is quite common with many branches of the exclusive brethren and still over-shadows many of the more tolerant groups that splintered away from it.

Theres also 20-30 or so smaller groups in the UK - often comprised of small numbers who have become disaffected with one of the bigger branches but can't adjust to life without that influence in it and form their own version more suited to their desires.


If your ever bored enough watch Son of Rambow while it focuses on one particular branch - it is representative of many of the other brethren groups too.
 
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Also, to whoever laid into evangelical Christians... Evangelicals are just Christians who actually believe in something and aren't afraid to speak the gospel, as opposed to the pathetic sunday morning clubs that make up a distressingly large proportion of the Church of England.
 
If its a sexual relationship then tell her to sort her issues out first! If she practises what Bible states then she will understand the importance and significance of marriage in relation to the church.
 
Well I have spoken to her on the phone and I can’t work out where I stand.

I explained to here it was wrong to lie for almost 2 years she see this and said well I didn’t want to tell you because I knew how you would react, I said well so you have basically lured me into this relationship hiding a big secret? I feel hard for saying that than but hey :( I have told her to have a brake for a day or so and we need to think what we both want from this.

I cant get much out of the religion thing, but she says she is a massive believer so looks like religion is a big part of her, I didn’t have a clue I feel quite daft really :( :(
 
That or she doesn't really believe in it/love him but is worried her family will be upset/disowned/will lose the support of the church etc.


Things aren't always as simple as people on the internet think they are.
 
If that is the case your stuffed.

Like everything in relationships you need a little give and take but if you do not believe and she does with a passion then I would not want to be in your shoes.
 
I love the ignorance in this thread. Why do people really insist of throwing around strings of insults for a subject they dont understand? Any religion has differences depending on which branch you look at. Just because thy do things differently doesn't make them a cult. I am an atheist but I dont comment on a religion when I am ignorant of the belief systems and thought process behind it. Just because its not what I believe doesn't make it wrong.

As a reply to the initial post:
It sounds to me like Jehovah's Witnesses. They generally have meetings at their Kingdom Hall every Sunday morning and Thursday evening depending on how many groups share the hall. They also have smaller book studies on Tuesday evenings at respected peoples homes. They also prefer believers to not associate outside the faith when possible as people outside generally have a negative viewpoint on their avoidance of swear words, personal glory seeking, and promiscuous sex. Relationships outside the faith aren't as common as other, less devout, religions but still happen. Dating is accepted, sex is greatly frowned upon pre marriage, and marriage would either take place in the Kingdom Hall by one of the elders if you converted, or in a neutral location if you didn't.
As for your standing with her. She obviously kept it quiet because she was away you would overreact like an ignorant idiot who sees it as a cult instead of a faith. You have few choices. Learn more about them and join. Learn more about them and stay neutral. Or leave her.
 
I love the ignorance in this thread. Why do people really insist of throwing around strings of insults for a subject they dont understand? Any religion has differences depending on which branch you look at. Just because thy do things differently doesn't make them a cult. I am an atheist but I dont comment on a religion when I am ignorant of the belief systems and thought process behind it. Just because its not what I believe doesn't make it wrong.

As a reply to the initial post:
It sounds to me like Jehovah's Witnesses. They generally have meetings at their Kingdom Hall every Sunday morning and Thursday evening depending on how many groups share the hall. They also have smaller book studies on Tuesday evenings at respected peoples homes. They also prefer believers to not associate outside the faith when possible as people outside generally have a negative viewpoint on their avoidance of swear words, personal glory seeking, and promiscuous sex. Relationships outside the faith aren't as common as other, less devout, religions but still happen. Dating is accepted, sex is greatly frowned upon pre marriage, and marriage would either take place in the Kingdom Hall by one of the elders if you converted, or in a neutral location if you didn't.
As for your standing with her. She obviously kept it quiet because she was away you would overreact like an ignorant idiot who sees it as a cult instead of a faith. You have few choices. Learn more about them and join. Learn more about them and stay neutral. Or leave her.



Have you just called me an ignorant idiot?
 
Have you just called me an ignorant idiot?

OMG OMG! My girlfriend kept her religion a secret from me because she thought I would overreact! In response I've now overreacted and called things off, gone on to a forum I use to rant about it and agreed with a bunch of repliers who call it a cult and belittle her!

Wait it go bud.
 
Seriously though, who cares, the relationship worked before, just carry on? :confused:

I think when after 2 years things are not what they seemed when you first started it's time to reasses the situation. If someone dropped a bomb on me like that after such a long period I would.
I would consider there was no trust initially, that she was hiding something just to be with me hoping "x amount" of years would make me love her too much to care and be emotionally deluded.
Secondly, if said girl knew I'd take a dislike to the religious side of her so decided not to mention it till later is a massive indication that she was doing it to get her way and not caring about you.

There's two things I can say for sure about people, or mostly women from personal and other peoples experience is that they either.

1; Hope you change after they are with you, not liking the original person you are. Quote the eternal spoken word, "YOU NEVER CHANGE! IM LEAVING YOU! :p"
2: Hide lots of stuff until you are years deep into a loving relationship in hopes that you'll forgive them as so much time has passed.
You're lucky if you get 3: She doesn't do either and is a respectable/logical memeber of the human race.

Edit: To OP: As long as you can carry on your relationship as is and she doesn't bring all that crap in it, carry on and let her do her stuff.
If she starts to push her views and ideals, things won't go well.
 
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