do you have issues securing holidays from work ?

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Just wondering if you guys have issues getting your employer to give you your holiday entitlement?

yes i know its law they must give you them but this is the real world.

i'v owed 14 days and ive been trying to get my are manager (im a security guard) to get cover for me but so far he keep saying he's trying but hasnt found anyone yet.
i just dont beleive him to be honest and i dont feel he's making enough effort.
i have to take these holiday before the end of march so im guessing the latest i can wait is 17th march 2010 because the 2 weeks would then run into the end of march.
lets say i get to the 17th march and they still havent found anyone, would i be in my rights to just take them and screw them in their rubbish quest to find cover for me ?
i've only been there just over 7 months so i guess they could just get rid of me.

and please no " you should be grateful to have a job " comments lol.
 
I occasionally have problems getting time off... I'm a microbiologist and work in a lab thats open 365 days a year since bacteria/moulds/etc never stop growing... If there's already 2 people off (out of 20) on any given day then it becomes a real strain so we have to check and book holiday well in advance. I can see your manager's point of view in needing cover... but you might (depending on your contract) lose all holiday entitlement not claimed... Have patience and keep asking tbh!
 
My work aren't too bad... but we are expected to usually book a whole year in advance, which can be a bit of a pain. Plus as I work in retail, Christmas holidays are pretty much a no-no.

I think you should just take the holiday if your manager doesn't find cover. You are entitled to it anyway, and you have let him know at least a month in advance.
 
Yes. Infact they hired more people because we complained we couldn't get our holidays after some bint took all her holidays then quit.

If they are honestlly having trouble you should give the managers some slack but it sounds like you have.

Say you have booked a holiday and request time of for it. Then have it off regardless. Assuming you give the proper notice or do what your contract says I can't see how they can do anything.
 
I'd ask them if they're willing to carry it over to the next year. If not, just say you have no choice but to take it mid-March.
 
AFAIK you aren't entitled to just take them, but they are obliged to pay your for leave lost due when it is their fault. I'm not sure though.
 
Good luck. You're in a job notorious for crappy treatment of employees, you've only been in it for 7 months and unemployment is high.
 
Don't normally have issues taking leave at our place. In the support teams you occasionally have to be careful if others are off to not drop below minimum staffing levels but otherwise it's generally ok.

In my current team my boss is very flexible about the leave we require and lets us work from home if we need to stay in for deliveries or to wait for a boiler engineer (for instance). I do try and give a reasonable amount of notice if I want a longer time off (for instance I'm off for three weeks in April and I informed them of the dates in Jan '09)
 
I find some of the situations in this thread shocking, tantamount to bullying in some cases. If you are entitled to leave, speak to your HR department. Obviously leave has to be worked out so that there is adequate cover, still I find it shocking.
 
Not too bad at my work. Hols are banned at Xmas/new year Easter & bank holiday weeks & that's it. Couldn't take a week off in July, though that was my fault as I didn't book that week enough in advance & other staff have now booked it. I have had other jobs where I've wanted holidays off & been turned down due to my so called ex-bosses saying 'too busy to let you take time off' even though its quiet & there are enough staff. In one job I had the boss was so evil he thought no-one was allowed holidays. So staff would call in sick, which I did several times before I told him where to stick the job! :o
 
Normally my job ain't too bad about holidays, I'm in a team of 4 so as long as no-one else is off for the period you can have it. That was until recently when I put in a holiday request for 2 weeks beginning late June so I could spend some time with my family (they're travelling over from the states) and my supervisor & boss said sorry no can do we may need you to travel as everyone else is now refusing to go anywhere
 
I only work weekends in retail but am entitled to paid holiday and it's an issue trying to take it at xmas, but I can understand that :)
 
Your manager don't want you to take your holidays, because he can't be assed to get cover. He's hoping you will let it drop and not take them, his problem sloved.

If you let him do it now, have no fear he will do it again.

Book your holidays NOW, for the last two weeks of your holiday year, and just take your holidays.
Once you have officialy booked your holidays he is stuck, he then has to get cover.
Don't ask him, book them.

Your manager is trying it on. And you can't be sacked for taking your holiday entitlement, no matter how long you have worked for them.

To few people on here willing to stick up for their legal rights.
 
moremoney said:
Your manager don't want you to take your holidays, because he can't be assed to get cover. He's hoping you will let it drop and not take them, his problem sloved.

If you let him do it now, have no fear he will do it again.

Book your holidays NOW, for the last two weeks of your holiday year, and just take your holidays.
Once you have officialy booked your holidays he is stuck, he then has to get cover.
Don't ask him, book them.

Your manager is trying it on. And you can't be sacked for taking your holiday entitlement, no matter how long you have worked for them.

To few people on here willing to stick up for their legal rights.
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but does he have to sign the holiday form ?
 
My employer is good in this respect. The conditions are:

i) Book in advance, preferably book the whole year by the end of January.
ii) A limited number of people off per week, to maintain minimum staffing levels.
iii) If a limited number of people can do a job, they can't have the same week off even if (ii) is met.
iv) First come first served policy on who gets any week.

Which are reasonable conditions. Clashes are dealt with by negotiation, e.g. "You've booked the 2nd week in May off, but Bob wants it off because he can get a good deal on a holiday then. Would you take the 3rd week instead?" All very civil.
 
Don't really have a problem to be honest. We only have 1 rule really and that is only 2 people (out of a team of 9) can be off at the same time. I could walk in Monday morning and get the afternoon off if necessary.
 
PMKeates said:
Are you serious on i) Angilion?
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Yes. We're chronically understaffed as a matter of policy (i.e. reducing the payroll at all costs), so it's a job and a half to get all the holidays arranged. It's a courtesy to management (who have to arrange it all) to get holiday requests in as early as possible. That way, they can get it all sorted in a few days at the start of the year.

You can do it later in the year, but you'll get whatever weeks are left. If you decide in June that you want the 2nd week in July off and other people booked that week in January, you're going to need a good reason to get one of them to change their holiday for you.
 
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