Or our gov could grow some balls and tell them to move off our land or nuke the **** out of every large city they have,
Argentina imposes shipping rules to the falklands.
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Or our gov could grow some balls and tell them to move off our land or nuke the **** out of every large city they have,
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Love the so called arm chair Navy and army experts on here funny stuff ;/ The above signifies this response. People have no clue.
Edit one above the above too slow!!!!!
Edit one above the above too slow!!!!!
Nukeing a major nation over some tiny islands is not going to happen the world community would be appaled and the repercussions for the UK massive. I do however believe that we would sit a couple of attack subs off the coast and hurl crusie missiles at strategic targets within Argentina in an effort to persuade them to 'Get off our Land' which we were not prepared to do last time using long range bombers.
I actually know what I'm talking about, go an ask a senior member of the arm forces off the rcord and they will agree with 90% of what I've said off the record.
Did anyone watch the documentary on the bombing of their airstrip? The lengths that the UK went to to fly a bomber there to drop a massive bomb on Argentina? It really was incredibly to watch!
Just looking up there:
It took 11 Victor Tankers to refuel the Vulcan we sent. Not only that, but they had to refuel the refuellers (although it doesnt mention that anywhere!) and I believe the Vulcan never made it home!
Just looking up there:
It took 11 Victor Tankers to refuel the Vulcan we sent. Not only that, but they had to refuel the refuellers (although it doesnt mention that anywhere!) and I believe the Vulcan never made it home!
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i spoke to Major Fanshaw and he said you were talking rubbish. He said you didn't know what you were talking about.
Yes you know how many missiles they keep on base, sure you do, they probably have more missiles than the argies have planes.
You know the patrol patterns of our sub fleet too, I'm suspicious, are we talking to an admiral here?
Sounds okay to me.
What was the US help last time admiral?
I don't recall the Yanks helping last time, they said it would be a 'a military impossibility' to retake the islands.
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If it is the vulcan that I think it was, it landed in rio, and was placed under arrest, only released cuz the pope was about to visit.
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One thing about the 4 typhoons:
In 1982 the argies were not fighting against the harriers - their aircraft and ours fought best at different altitude (info from wikipedia) so kept (mostly) out of each others way. They lost aircraft as soon as they came down to the harriers and we didn't go up to the altitude of the mirages. If 20 argie aircraft went against our 4 typhoons and were willing to fight on against the first 12 being lost I would give it as a high chance we would loose the typhoons. Then, even if all 20 were lost we need to rearm and refuel. if attacked on the ground you now have a stationary target filled with explosive and fuel!
[Side question: there is a saying with tornados, 3 talking, 2 walking, 1 flying. ie, for every 3 sorties planned 1 takes place due to problems with the aircraft. How does the typhoon compare?]
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In 1982 the argies were not fighting against the harriers - their aircraft and ours fought best at different altitude (info from wikipedia) so kept (mostly) out of each others way. They lost aircraft as soon as they came down to the harriers and we didn't go up to the altitude of the mirages. If 20 argie aircraft went against our 4 typhoons and were willing to fight on against the first 12 being lost I would give it as a high chance we would loose the typhoons. Then, even if all 20 were lost we need to rearm and refuel. if attacked on the ground you now have a stationary target filled with explosive and fuel!
[Side question: there is a saying with tornados, 3 talking, 2 walking, 1 flying. ie, for every 3 sorties planned 1 takes place due to problems with the aircraft. How does the typhoon compare?]
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The US supplied us with aviation fuel and sidewinder missiles.
It is not twaddle, the general opinion of the British military is that we would struggle to mount an operation similar to the last Falklands war due to a massive lack of available sea power. That is a simple fact, we have no carrier that could be on station within 3 months and then we are probably looking at a single capital ship operating RAF harriers that are primarily configured for ground attack as the Sea Harrier has been retired. The UK surface fleet is tiny and dispersed around the world an the UK merchant fleet has shrunk dramatically.
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IIRC, The Yanks provided the Fleet Air Arm with the AIM-9L Sidewinder all aspect air-air missiles that proved crucial to the Navy's Sea Harrier FRS.1's wresting control from the Argentine Air Force. Previous generation Sidewinders, such as those used by the AAF could only really lock onto a heat source, such as a jet exhaust which would require manoeuvring behind your opponent before getting a lock, whereas the AIM-9L was equipped with a liquid cooled seeker, sensitive enough to lock on to an aircraft head-on from the friction generated by air passing over an aircraft's skin. Quite deadly as you can imagine, and a large part of the reason the Argentines dubbed the Sea Harrier 'La Muerta Negra' - 'The Black Death'
Furthermore, they provided satellite imagery via the National Reconnaissance Office, while the US Navy and Air Force provided meteorological data. And probably more crucially, the US Navy's Sea Lift Command provided Britain with access to their fuel tanker fleet, without which it would have probably been impossible for us to retake the islands.
You guys should really read Vulcan 607 by Roland White, it provides a fascinating insight not only into the Black Buck bombing raids on Port Stanley at the start of the war, but a lot of the build-up to the war as well.
Furthermore, they provided satellite imagery via the National Reconnaissance Office, while the US Navy and Air Force provided meteorological data. And probably more crucially, the US Navy's Sea Lift Command provided Britain with access to their fuel tanker fleet, without which it would have probably been impossible for us to retake the islands.
You guys should really read Vulcan 607 by Roland White, it provides a fascinating insight not only into the Black Buck bombing raids on Port Stanley at the start of the war, but a lot of the build-up to the war as well.
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That's how I feel about the people in this thread who talk like they are veterans but are probably spotty little 20 year old virgins sat in a bedroom of their parents house reading Wikipedia and then claiming to know what they are on about.
Ridiculous!
I don't know I'm speculating, but given the appaling stocks we have of more basic items such as body armour I find it highly unlikely that the Falkland islands have a huge stock pile of very expensive missiles.
Of course I don't know the patrol patterns but we have a very limited number of boats and an awfull lot of ocean to cover, last time we had more subs and it still took a considerable time to have one on station so it's just a simple extrapolation.
Your right it does.
The US supplied us with gallons and gallons of aviation fluid, allowed us to 'borrow' NATO stockpiles of sidewinder missiles and generally did anything else they thought they could get away with whilst maintaining public neutrality
See above.
We were also fortunate that the Argentine Navy had significant issues with it's submarines preventing them from playing a significant role, remember if we send a single aircraft carrier we are only one torpedo away from the war being over.
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Thats the one! I was pretty sure it landed, but could not remember where.
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I can assure you that this paragraph is complete codswallop! I was in portsmouth 2 weekends ago and I can state as a fact they were both in port, and neither is in refit.
Good day sir.
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I can confirm he is talking out of his bottom too. God knows where why he is making such rubbish up???