Poll: What is your religion?

What is your religion?

  • Christian

    Votes: 94 14.0%

  • Muslim

    Votes: 31 4.6%

  • Jewish

    Votes: 3 0.4%

  • Sikh

    Votes: 12 1.8%

  • Hindu

    Votes: 8 1.2%

  • Buddhist

    Votes: 6 0.9%

  • Atheist

    Votes: 236 35.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 37 5.5%

  • Agnostic

    Votes: 155 23.1%

  • Jedi

    Votes: 88 13.1%
  • Total voters
    670
Question to the atheists. What do you think put us here? I mean it's not pure chance is it.. Something somewhere has to have created us. We are sort of designed biologically. Think about it, everything has it's purpose. A lot of thought has gone into us and just about everything else.. OK so it may not be some white bearded fella up in Heaven or a whatever the muslims believe in..

Strip away religion, and we are just too complex or a creation as is our universe to be pure chance... Wish we all knew.. But we obviously don't.. One day the answer will come.. Most likely not in our lifetime.
 
Vixen said:
You've just destroyed your entire argument that atheists don't have faith - where is your proof that there is no form of God/deity/higher being? There has been no definitive scientific proof either way so if you don't know what to believe until there is proof then you are agnostic, not atheist.
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There isn't (and can't be) definitive scientific proof of an innumerable amount of things. For example, the world is full of undetectable unicorns being ridden by undetectable pixies. There isn't proof that isn't true. It's impossible to disprove that statement. Do you regard it as a matter of faith to not believe in the millions of unicorns being ridden by pixies?
 
thedoc46 said:
Question to the atheists. What do you think put us here?
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I don't know. I'd like to fll that gap in my knowledge, but with something more substantial than a statement of faith.

I mean it's not pure chance is it..
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That's your faith, not mine. I don't know. The universe is a big place. Even freakishly unlikely things happen given enough opportunities.

Something somewhere has to have created us. We are sort of designed biologically. Think about it, everything has it's purpose. A lot of thought has gone into us and just about everything else..
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That's your faith, not mine. Evolution by natural selection would result in animals that worked well in the habitat they lived in. No need for design or thought. Your argument that the existence of successful animals proves that they were designed just doesn't work.

OK so it may not be some white bearded fella up in Heaven or a whatever the muslims believe in..
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Same fella, no picture.

Strip away religion, and we are just too complex or a creation as is our universe to be pure chance...
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Who said anything about pure chance? Evolution is not pure chance.

Stripping away religion from an argument that the universe was created by an intelligent, thinking being and you get...a contradiction. Belief in an intelligent, thinking being who can created the universe is religion.
 
Ive seen on here people being ridiculed for believing in aliens, yet believing in god is an accepted idea in society, theres no proof of the existence of either.
 
setter said:
Ive seen on here people being ridiculed for believing in aliens, yet believing in god is an accepted idea in society, theres no proof of the existence of either.
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The ridicule is mainly for what they offer as evidence for those aliens secretly running the world.
 
thedoc46 said:
Question to the atheists. What do you think put us here? I mean it's not pure chance is it.. Something somewhere has to have created us. We are sort of designed biologically. Think about it, everything has it's purpose. A lot of thought has gone into us and just about everything else.. OK so it may not be some white bearded fella up in Heaven or a whatever the muslims believe in..
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The apparent design you can see is an illusion created by adaptive evolution. If you think about it, natural selection is pretty much the opposite of pure chance. That's not to say chance doesn't play a part, but it's by no means the dominant factor.

For a proper answer, see Richard Dawkins' Climbing Mount Improbable. It covers exactly the points you've raised.
 
look at all the religions that have records of encounters with beings from the sky or whatever.
They all worship some sort of god, where did this idea of a god come from?
something is out there ;)
 
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Vixen said:
You've just destroyed your entire argument that atheists don't have faith - where is your proof that there is no form of God/deity/higher being? There has been no definitive scientific proof either way so if you don't know what to believe until there is proof then you are agnostic, not atheist.
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I touched on just that point, twice, but you obviously didn't read it. As Angilion also put - it's not our place to disprove because that's just not how science works.

I don't have faith that a god doesn't exist, I simply don't believe one does because there's nothing to suggest otherwise.
 
Warbie said:
I touched on just that point, twice, but you obviously didn't read it. As Angilion also put - it's not our place to disprove because that's just not how science works.

I don't have faith that a god doesn't exist, I simply don't believe one does because there's nothing to suggest otherwise.
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So you have faith that the absence of evidence is the same as evidence of absence?
 
It's all a fairy tale* to keep people in line and paying taxes (or it was until governments took over the role of taxation), now religion only serves to fund itself through donations*. Do you think the Scientologists would welcome you if you pledged £10 a year? :)

All about the money*

*The views expressed in this post are not intended to offend in any way. Religious nuts, gtfo with ya.
 
RDM said:
So you have faith that the absence of evidence is the same as evidence of absence?
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That would mean I was believing without evidence the absence of evidence and that believing belief without evidence is the same as absence of evidence is the same as evidence of absence, which I don't. I think. Excuse me while my head explodes :)


As it's impossible to disprove anything it doesn't require an act of faith to think something doesn't exist. However, it does require an act of faith to believe in something without any evidence.
 
Vixen said:
You've just destroyed your entire argument that atheists don't have faith - where is your proof that there is no form of God/deity/higher being? There has been no definitive scientific proof either way so if you don't know what to believe until there is proof then you are agnostic, not atheist.
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You can't prove a negative, only a positive, however that doesn't mean that the disbelief position of atheism is not faith based. The faith lies in putting assumptions taken a priori as some sort of law rather than any specific faith in the idea.

It is highly unscientific to apply the scientific principles to an untested or untestable hypothesis in such a way, it is not what they were designed for and the assumptions are only there in the first place for predictive usefulness, not as an arbiter of truth, and that is why applying them such that anything you can't positively prove is false even if you can't test it is an act of faith.

This is also the reason why the philosophy of scientific realism can be considered a faith based position.
 
Warbie said:
As it's impossible to disprove anything it doesn't require an act of faith to think something doesn't exist. However, it does require an act of faith to believe in something without any evidence.
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There is plenty of evidence of the existence of god. However none of it is scientific and none of it is evidence that you (or even myself) will accept. However I cannot take that leap of faith and say just because I have never seen, experienced, or believed in God it means that God does not exist.

Why is it so hard to accept there is a certain amount of faith in being atheist? Faith isn't a bad thing.
 
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