Microsoft?

Surely thats down to the vendors rather than Microsoft though. How can you blame them if application 'x' doesn't work on the next version of Windows?



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Not even remotely. And besides which, Microsoft are not well known for backwards compatibility. I had to work on a team for a bank that spent 12 months finding suitable replacements/upgrades for off-the-shelf applications when migrating from NT4 to XP. In the region of 12,000 applications, of which only a small percentage (roughly 20%) that didn't need anything changed.

they used 12,000 applications?
 
Yep. Not all off the shelf I must add. About 1/3 were bespoke, however I was not on the team responsible for bespoke software. And of course, not everyone had 12,000 apps installed.

The apps ranged from micro-apps (news tickers etc.) to "Enterprise" applications like Dameware.
 
Surely thats down to the vendors rather than Microsoft though. How can you blame them if application 'x' doesn't work on the next version of Windows?



M.

I'd like you to read your own post again. Then again, and once more for good luck :p

Microsoft shifted the goal posts, and whether right or wrong, stuff that did work before, no longer works. The apps haven't changed, but Windows did. So who is going to get the blame? :)
 
That's because their mice can right click :) Have been able to since the Mighty Mouse :) - Although the Apple mice do indeed suck balls :p - Haven't tried their new one though..

Phate, I've been an Apple user since the Macintosh Classic so I do know you can right click on a Mac nowadays. Hell I've heard you can cut and paste on an iPhone! :D

I like the new Magic Mouse but I do have small girly hands. It would be way to small for people with large hands... anyway I digress.
 
Phate, I've been an Apple user since the Macintosh Classic so I do know you can right click on a Mac nowadays. Hell I've heard you can cut and paste on an iPhone! :D

Crazy isn't it! To think it took them 3 revisions to get it out then all their customers were like ZOMG LETS UPGRADE....oh wait thats good marketing for you :p

I like the new Magic Mouse but I do have small girly hands. It would be way to small for people with large hands... anyway I digress.

I'm yet to try it, but still love my MX700 so no need to change :D
 
You are misreading my post. I'm claiming there is no problem writing software that can match or exceed the capabilities of the Windows OS or other MS apps (I'm talking about technical capabilities, not compatibility). Amp34 asked who should replace them, which I took to mean are they replaceable ?

If he meant what should we do if MS shuts down tomorrow, Windows is banned, and we are left with huge amounts of legacy software he should have been more explicit.

You essentially got what I was asking correct. :)

However I was also asking for a specific OS, which I pointed out none exist at the moment that look like they will ever replace Windows.

It would still take years (possibly a couple of decades) for another company to get to the same sort of market saturation, with programs being build throughout that time to replace the ones people use on windows.
 
That's because their mice can right click :) Have been able to since the Mighty Mouse :) - Although the Apple mice do indeed suck balls :p - Haven't tried their new one though..

Despite no one bringing it up in any anti apple rant for the last 5 years splodge always feels the need to say it as if they had in every single apple thread...
 

Maybe, the OS is good enough (on their hardware), however it wil always be a minor OS if they only allow it on their hardware...:p

Not even remotely. And besides which, Microsoft are not well known for backwards compatibility. I had to work on a team for a bank that spent 12 months finding suitable replacements/upgrades for off-the-shelf applications when migrating from NT4 to XP. In the region of 12,000 applications, of which only a small percentage (roughly 20%) that didn't need anything changed.

Yet I can still play games that were designed for Win 95 on Windows 7. Yeah there are a few programs that don't work but the vast majority of them do.

Interestingly MS have seemingly cut all links to old software with the new windows phone 7, something I really don't like the idea of and may put a lot of people of buying it (those that use their WM 6.x phones as proper business/smart phone devices).

With Vista being such a disappointment, Windows 7 looking a tad overrated and the death of PC gaming I can tell you that the laptop I bought in '08 will be the last Windows PC I ever buy. My next laptop will be a Macbook Pro. The iPhone has reinvigorated my waning enthusiasm for computers and gadgets.

I'm not convinced by the iPad though, but who buys v1 of an Apple product anyway?

See, this is what I don't get, why, because you ahve an iPhone does that mean you want a macbook? Except for the Apple love? There is a big difference between a phone and a omputer so what makes you think apple will light your life up in the laptop world?:confused:

I'm not against macbooks in the slightest, in fact if I was replacing my laptop now I would probably get a 13" macbook pro as they are the best laptops out there for my needs at the moment, for less money than some of the alternatives, just I wouldn't buy one for the OSX alone, in fact I would probably stick windows 7 on it instead. Afterall macbooks are just laptops..
 
It's a nice simple way of paraphrasing the normal anti-Apple posts in GD.

Funny thing is, go to another forum (such as Talk Photography) and you get the absolute opposite. Someone posts a thread asking what laptop they should buy, or that they have a problem with windows and the mac fanboys jump on it making stupid comments about windows being rubbish and OSX being absolutely perfect. It ends up in a mess every time as people then go in to point out they are talking rubbish ending up in massive debate.

There are certain apple fans that seem to to love taking pot shots at windows while simultaneously calling calling all windows users jealous!:p
 
See, this is what I don't get, why, because you ahve an iPhone does that mean you want a macbook? Except for the Apple love? There is a big difference between a phone and a omputer so what makes you think apple will light your life up in the laptop world?:confused:

It's just a feeling I get when I use my iPhone and the limited times that I've used a Macbook, just that everything is functioning as it was designed. Yes you can't multi-task on an iPhone but it means that the CPU isn't swamped by various apps hogging cycles (as happens on desktop Windows OS - McShield.exe I'm looking at you!).

Who knows, perhaps I'm being optimistic about the capabilities of the Macbook, I've never owned one before only borrowed one off friends/relatives for a short time, but I'm so dissatisfied with Vista, and my complaints haven't been addressed in Win7. I certainly think that Apple deserve the sale of a Macbook based on my experiences of the iPhone, and Microsoft is undeserving of a sale of another Windows licence due to my experiences of Vista. One thing that Apple seem to know how to do very well is a UI.

I'm not against macbooks in the slightest, in fact if I was replacing my laptop now I would probably get a 13" macbook pro as they are the best laptops out there for my needs at the moment, for less money than some of the alternatives, just I wouldn't buy one for the OSX alone, in fact I would probably stick windows 7 on it instead. Afterall macbooks are just laptops..

Out of interest why would you buy a macbook and put Windows on it? Surely you can get more hardware for your money buying a standard PC laptop?
 
Indeed, a machine like the Dell V13 is as equally impressive as a Macbook for style and quality - it's the Adamo's little brother of course but costs half of what a Macbook does almost.
 
Out of interest why would you buy a macbook and put Windows on it? Surely you can get more hardware for your money buying a standard PC laptop?

People that buy Apple computers and install just Windows (or don't use OS X) really grind my gears. It's like they have some need to make a fashion statement. Buy a nice Windows laptop like the Dell mentioned above damn it. Most of the point of owning a Mac is OS X. :mad:

No way. IPhones' are buggy as hell. The number of times I nearly smash my 3Gs up.

The phone or Apps on the phone? I've found the iPhone (2G and 3G) to be very stable, however if you install loads of Apps they can sometimes get a little slow. Solved by either a restore or in a more drastic way by a total erase. Same applies to mosts smartphones, it tends to be third party apps that make them wobble.
 
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