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News: AMD is ready to anticipate Nvidia's GTX480

I thought it was pretty well known that ati had a 58xx series refresh just waiting to counter fermi, still should be good for prices if the 5890 and 470 perform so closely. I'm just not sure nvidia can manufacture fermi based cards as cheap as ati can with the 5000 series, let's hope they can.
 
D.P. said:
Its pretty funny, at least I hope you can see the funny side, when making fun of Rroff is perfectly fine but a single word about an overt ATI fanboy gets scorned.
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Actually my posts were aimed at both Loowi_ashley and ejr22. I was even more dissapointed with rhys216 last night with his personal attacks but chose a different way to voice my concerns.

I've been here a long time and normally don't get bothered by it but it seems to be escalating a bit much at the moment.
 
I'm seriously wondering is ATI can lower their prices on the 5850's seeing as they had to put them up straight away after launch from £199 to £219. the fact that due to supply and lack of competition the prices seem to still be a little higher. of course the 5870 is available for £299 or even lower in some places, anyway it does make you wonder.

as for the refreshes, it will add £50 or so i reckon to each price bracket especially at the beginning so bring on those £300 5860's or what ever their going to call them...and £400 5890's.

i reckon the Nvidia gtx470 will enter the fray at ££350 so let battle comemce....:D
 
Well, I'm hoping to see at least some price drop for the 5000 series, even if it's not much. If the GTX 400 series does match up to the 5000 series cards, then I can imagine the 5890 coming out at £300 odd.
 
What I don't understand is why ATi are being slated for their prices when in fact they are lower than what Nvidia have introduced at in previous years. If the tables were turned and this was NV, rest assured they would be charging you £450 for a "5870", and not have bothered releasing many "5xxx" variants.

I guess a few of the fanboys need anything they can to cling on to their NV religion
 
I once paid £390 (if memory serves me right) for a 7800gtx which was the top card at the time and looking around, generally, I don't really see that much difference now. Ok, granted a 5970 is more expensive but it is dual gpu. However, I do not intending on paying that much for a card though.
 
5890...getting closer to the 6**** :D

It will be the same always. Nvidia will have the better cards but VERY expensive and ATI will have the cards slightly less powerfull from nvidia but half the price.
 
Biffa said:
Actually my posts were aimed at both Loowi_ashley and ejr22. I was even more dissapointed with rhys216 last night with his personal attacks but chose a different way to voice my concerns.

I've been here a long time and normally don't get bothered by it but it seems to be escalating a bit much at the moment.
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Simply saying what every-one thinks of him, he brings nothing to this forum, I have no idea why he hasnt been banned. ejr22 just personal attacks all the time, I just give it back and then he goes away.
 
All I can say is 'F Off' all fanboys on both sides of the fence, i'm getting sick and tired of all the arguments.

I have had nVidia cards most of my 'adult life' but bought an ATI card as it was the best I could afford at the time.

Buy what you think you can afford and just enjoy it.
 
Rroff said:
It'll be interesting to see what the 5890 does price wise... whether ATI will knock the 5850, 5870, down a bit or place it above the current 5870 price... it could end up at both the same price and performance position as Fermi :S
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I'm not really sure what to think price wise. I mean I'd like to think they'd price it at least linearly in relation to the 5870, but the recent 5830 pricing fumble has made me question whether they've got their heads screwed on quite as tightly as I'd thought. That said the GTX 480 is rumoured to come in at about $600-$679 (or around £450-£500 inc. VAT, probably a bit more initially), and again I'd like to think that they wouldn't price a card 15% faster than the 5870 50% more.

Then again I suppose they could pull another 5830 and price it like £5 less than the 5970.
 
TBH tho even if AMD said right lets knock £50 off the 5870 price and put the 5890 at the old 5870 price the vendors would just mark them back up anyhow... with the economy and uncertain supply theres a lot of price gouging going on.
 
Fermi will almost definitely be the most expensive card on the market when it comes out, unless they choose to lose money on them. The chip is huge compared to the 5870 and the yields are worse (so the reports say). The chip runs hot which means more power, more power circuitry to deal with it and better cooling to dissipate the heat. None of this is going to make it cheap to make, I reckon Lightnix is going to be pretty much on the money, fermi will cost 50% more for 15% more performance. Nvidia will just spin up the added "features" and people will buy.
 
Sorry to butt in with ignorance here but is the latest on Fermi:

1) It's going to cost loads
2) It'll be a 15% increase over ATi's Radeon 5870/5850 (when overclocked)
3) A power hungry beast
4) ATi have a 5890 refresh planned for Fermis release?

?

I have been out of the loop and was about to buy a 5870 (having just put my 285 on the bay) - is it worth waiting till Fermi launches on ~March 27th?

Or just buy a 5870 now?
 
What would you plan to do on 27th?
If you plan on going Fermi, it's highly unlikely you will be able to actually buy one.
Maybe you could get a 5800 refresh if they are out by then?
 
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