UK Government Set To Kill Wi-Fi Hotspots

[meghatronic]

I think it's a good idea - but not for their reasons. If that makes sense.

 

[Robert]

If used a laptop in public I'd just VyperVPN.

 

[platypus]

Even if it was as you thought it's still not a good thing to create a law banning something to stop some people being stupid.

Usually I would agree, but I think in the case of computers the pace at which the technology advances it's impossible for people to keep up, especially those less technically minded. Many need all the help they can get.

 

[britboy4321]

It's because peados park outside and WIFI in to get their images of kiddies.

The government is also thinking of FORCING you to have security set on your internet connection. Otherwise paedos sit outside in their car with a laptop and WIFI in to your connection again for the kiddie pictures, with low chance of being caught.

AND of course paedos in their house downloading never currently instigate wifi protection, so when the police check the IP that has been downloading the filth and call round their house, they can just say 'wasn't me - there's been a dodgy ford Escort parked outside my house with a bloke with a laptop sitting inside, never thought anything of it until now' and AGAIN they get away with it.

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[Burnsy2023]

This is a good reason why the Digital Economy Bill to be rejected in it's entirety.

 

[Westyfield2]

Usually I would agree, but I think in the case of computers the pace at which the technology advances it's impossible for people to keep up, especially those less technically minded. Many need all the help they can get.

I'm sorry if this sounds elitist, but what?

If you plug a thingymajig in that means your laptop can use your internet and printer wirelessly from in the garden surely it's common sense that so can everyone else? You've done nothing to make the two friends, they came from different shops even and have never met each other before, so of-course all your neighbours laptops will talk to it too..

 

[Pixel]

Digital Rights, where the public have none.

The government has another thing coming if they think they can control the internet.

 

[Morgoth]

This is just crazy.

 

[anything I don't mind]

how can the government coming into private property telling people to switch off wireless be a good thing ?

the government ****es me off, how am i surrposed to hack the mi5 secret databases now and do cyber terrorism if you close my local internet cafe... lol

but it is for your security. always sold to us with our interest in mind, i am pretty sure they are not our interests that are the driving force behind the digital britian criminal document.

it is obvious that they want to turn the internet into a controlled medium that is completely under government.

you have the big media companies trying to change the internet because it is taking over and the politicians are as corrupt as can be. mr mandy getting some money on the side after meeting the big media big wigs on their not so secret treasonous island getaway.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Just in case it'll do any good: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/dontdisconnectus

 

[platypus]

I'm sorry if this sounds elitist, but what?

Some people need a lot of help when it comes to technology.

If you plug a thingymajig in that means your laptop can use your internet and printer wirelessly from in the garden surely it's common sense that so can everyone else? You've done nothing to make the two friends, they came from different shops even and have never met each other before, so of-course all your neighbours laptops will talk to it too..

I don't see your point? When have the public at large ever employed common sense? How often are [computing] products sold without due care given to educating the customer as to how to use them safely and securely?

 

[starfighter]

It doesn't mean wifi hotspots have to close they just have to be responsible for their users usage. Fair enough really.

Otherwise whenever anyone got done for copyright they will just say " I had a free wifi hotspot, someone connected to it and downloaded it, it wasn't me"



The bigger question is should ISPs be allowed to cut people off because of copyright infringement.

 

[bam0]

I don't see your point? When have the public at large ever employed common sense? How often are [computing] products sold without due care given to educating the customer as to how to use them safely and securely?

Why do you think this is anyone's responsibility but the person buying those products?

 

[bam0]

Also this is no protection to the average person sitting in a cafe, if I was a nefarious individual all I'd have to do is come in and buy a coffee to get the key and I'd still have access to all your traffic, an encrypted wireless network doesn't protect you from anyone else who also has the key.

 

[knowlesy]

Networks should be secured and each user should have to request a key. It really isn't a hard thing to set-up and administer.

yeah sure ... for every one who enters starbucks / maccy ds Im sure they'll pay for some one to do that or pay for a radius server or even better yet ... state wide software for peoples laptops so they have a unique id tag ??? winner

oh and signed burnsey

 

[I get around]

Idiots are just trying to destroy any business that ever had a bit of success, they won't be happy until we're all on the dole.

First the shisha bars, now the internet cafes.

Labour are daft but the tories are monumentally stupid, why I'm voting lib dem.

 

[anything I don't mind]

the person who runs the network has no liability of the actions of the people using it.

that is just the way it works.

if they start changing that law, you will find isps and network operators responsible for EVERYTHING the person does on the internet. be it threatening someone on the facebook or sending email complaints to corporations, the goes on and on.

that is like finding the person who owns the road responsible for a drivers poor driving.

this is not about plausible deniability it is about liability and they are trying to manipulate the laws so that the politicians friends have a head start at trying to prevent the freedom we have grown to love. *cries*

 

[dowie]

So because some people don't store their data securely, responsible people like us must suffer?

I say that if your data isn’t secure and its readily available then you get what you deserve.

yeah course you do...

have you ever logged into hotmail or equivalent to check your e-mail in an internet cafe?

that isn't secure...

Google only recently changed Gmail in response to actions by the Chinese authorities

I hardly think its the fault of individuals who innocently log into their e-mail account in a cafe if those are then compromised.

 

[mmj_uk]

This Orwellian measure is all about stopping people using the internet anonymously, big brother is watching.

 

[Orcish-Horde]

I think its about time that we get in return of copyright infringement laws, laws that force copyright holders to keep their holdings up to date.

You bought film X on VHS, it then came out on DVD and Blue-ray. The copyright holder should by law then have to give you in return of your old VHS copy a DVD or Blue-ray copy if you so wish.

Game X is released on PC, 360, Wii and PS3 you buy PC or one of the others, your then get a right to use Game X on any system its released on.

PC/Mac Software X thats released on lets say Win 95, needs to fully function on windows 7.

If they don't keep their holdings up to date they then forfeit the copyright, which becomes public.

As for any of the other things they will pin this law on to, peados, whisle blowers, personal data protection or what ever else. If they enforced the laws we already have there would be no need for this.