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2560x1600 Gaming: AMD® Phenom™ II X4 vs Intel® Core™ I7

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CPU Scaling With The Radeon HD 5970 - Phenom II X4 Scaling
Legion Hardware - Kylie Perrin - 25th November 2009
 
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Well this is encouraging. I had originally planned on grabbing a Yorkfield but since prices are stupid I have decided to go the phenom 2 route and have a 4GHz 705e quad p2 setup coming to me in a few days :D
 
Uriel said:
Well I think you take the prize for presentation anyway. :)
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gurusan said:
Yup it was so good I forgot I looked at the article before lol.
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Lol :D

How credible do you think those results are? . . . . If they are quite accurate then it certainly makes it hard for anyone to recommend Intel® Core™ I7 to the gamers (i.e a large % of these forums) . . .
 
I dont think many people game at that res, surely its done at that res to show it works fine at that res as the gpu is obviously working harder than the cpu, but what happens when its a normal resolution, say 1920x1080.
 
hyperst said:
I dont think many people game at that res, surely its done at that res to show it works fine at that res as the gpu is obviously working harder than the cpu, but what happens when its a normal resolution, say 1920x1080.
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Hmm.

Good thinking Batman.

Just proves the CPU is not in the equation after a certain clock speed at this res.
 
hyperst said:
I dont think many people game at that res
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Aye that's a crazy res but you hear a lot of people speak about "CPU Bottlenecking my new uBer XYZ GPU" etc . . . AMD® Phenom™ II X4 looks like a great solution . . . lot of retail options to get PhIIX4 @ 3.6GHz-3.8GHz for around half the price of the Intel® Core™ I7 (assuming one is buying new of course!)

hyperst said:
but what happens when its a normal resolution, say 1920x1080.
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The FPS increases, you carry on blowing the *** out of things! :D
 
There are advantages for the P-II in some games, but usually only above 100FPS. The ones where it counts - e.g. Crysis, Battleforge, are pretty much the same.

Although if we're looking at value, it's quite clear AMD win on that front. :D
 
On CPU limitation - the issue isn't so much right now for most people. It's going to be that easy GPU upgrade in 2 or 3 years time when 5970 performance costs £80-£120. And then, it looks like both the i7 and PII will still be going strong.

Fact is - most games will run perfectly adequately on a cheap Core2, Athlon II or Phenom II. There is almost no reason for a gamer to buy a CPU much over £100 unless they need encoding speed or something as well. I suspect dual core AMD (if they can't unlock), i3 and i5 (not 750) gamers are going to get stung once more fully multithreaded games become the norm. Higher clocked X4 PIIs will still be going strong. i7s will still be going strong. I suspect higher clocked Athlon x3s and x4s will be fine.

Easyrider - I highly suspect that by that time you will have moved on from your current i7 to whatever suits you at the time. Your first perfectly decent i7 lasted you what? A few days? I suspect the upgraditis bug has bitten you again...
 
Uriel said:
Easyrider - I highly suspect that by that time you will have moved on from your current i7 to whatever suits you at the time. Your first perfectly decent i7 lasted you what? A few days? I suspect the upgraditis bug has bitten you again...
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That C0/C1 did at a cost of £100...would have kept it but a D0 came along for 15 quid more...So there you go.

I dunno...This rig cost me 315 all in for the chip ram and mobo and its more than enough power for my needs...Now I have a SSD as a boot drive..I can't see me wasting money willy nilly for the forseeable future.
 
What i wonder abouts those comparisons was if they bothered to overclock the northbridge as it dosen't say as another 400-600MHZ on the NB makes quite a difference in performance
 
So in GPU limited situations it's 50/50, not a surprise really as you could run 3 tests on the same system and get 3 different results.
 
like ive said many times on the games front the amd are actually better sat here and tested a 4.0 i7 with same card and my phenom at 3.8 in games . phenom quad is smoother and better in games it just is. thanks for watching :D

pisces me mates of no end but they comment the same when it comes to games.

in other apps then yes i7 is quicker but gaming amd have a nice affordable game killer. that in a lot of games kills even the highet clocked i7s but some just wont admit it or havent compared them as in played on them .

im not biased either i will buy whatever amd / intel / nvidia / ati dont care as long as its good value for performance
 
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