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1Ghz 5870 18% faster than GTX480 in Heaven with Tessellation off!

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Looks like some Chinese forum members have compared the FPS on the recent Nv Video with the 5780.

Stock 5870 = GTX480
1Ghz 5870 just over 18% faster!

I'm really not sure the 480 will even be 5% faster than 5870 like Charlie said...
Slim chance of price drops now, unless Ati really want to stick the knife in!

GTX480 Stock
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5870 Stock
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5870 1Ghz
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There must be sooo many people who have been waiting for the 480 as well, either to buy one or for Ati to lower their prices... only to find out GTX480 = POS
 
Its no coincidence that we have no proper performance figures form NV with less than three weeks from launch, now we know why, it's on par with a 5870..ROFL
 
TO be honest, fps at one point in a demo means just about jack shizzel, just like performance in an entirely sythetic benchmark doesn't mean much.

Though in general, there really shouldn't be ANY point in that benchmark that is slower on the 480gtx.

As I keep trying to tell people, the 480gtx would have been a complete failure at 30% faster across the board, end of the day its success comes in terms of business, making a HUMOUNGOUS loss on every single card makes it an entire failure. Making it cost 50% more means even if it made profit, AMD would sell 5 times as many cards anyway, so it would still gain market share and still make AMD more money and would still be the far more succesful architecture.

But the 480gtx will be slower than was meant to be, it's just going from horrifically bad to absolutely disasterous, there was never a single question it was a bad card.

People keep seeming to forget the 280/285gtx were the fastest cores around, quite easily and in terms of profit, sales numbers, market share and manufacturing, they were failures compared to a far more successful 4870/4890.

The 6 months late isn't what made Fermi bad, just worse than it was, which was a horrible situation to start with.

If AMD are getting around 80 cores a wafer, and Nvidia are getting maybe 8-10, per core its around 800-1000% more expensive to make a 480gtx than a 5870........... thats where the cards success simply ends, performance doesn't matter, its already a massive failure when your core on the same process and 60% bigger, costs up to 1000% more to produce, at most it should cost around 70%(yield is naturally lower on larger cores, so it should cost a little over the size increase).
 
LOL @ "Let's take a look at NVIDIA's official rabbit teeth and old fat man's GTX 480"...

I've waited this long, I might as well wait a few more weeks for UK prices. But knowing NVIDIA, it looks like I'll be going for a 5870...
 
So, basically, what you are saying is that the 5870 at 1GHz is faster than the GTX 480 by 18% in a single frame with a FRAPS screenshot? Wow that is some fine benchmarking going on there.
 
I have made my mind up now as to which card will be making its way into my upcoming build, and it's not going to be an nVidia one.

I've been waiting patiently for god knows how long now for nVidia to release their next gen cards, but I am not very impressed with all the stuff I've been reading about them lately, the cards don't seem to perform as good as I was expecting, and I have no doubt in my mind that they're going to cost a lot of £££, so my next card is going to be either a 5870 or I might wait for ATi's refresh to see what that brings.

My 280 sli will last me a few more months though.
 
Missing the point, in current games and ones to be released in the near future, the 480 and 5870 will be on par, even in DX11 titles, no games for years are going to utilize that much tessellation, and by the time we do get some real intense DX11 titles the 4870 and 5870 will be last gen. 480 is fail for a card six months behind the competition and I know the reviews of it will back me up.
 
So, basically, what you are saying is that the 5870 at 1GHz is faster than the GTX 480 by 18% in a single frame with a FRAPS screenshot? Wow that is some fine benchmarking going on there.

The FPS is pretty stable during that scene so it basically goes for the the entire scene at least.

While obviously far from conclusive, it's no different than what Nvidia are them selves doing by relentlessly only showing heaven benchmarks...
 
I can see these 'discussions' are going to get even more bizarre and frantic in the coming weeks. Roll on 26th March so people can regain their sanity, whatever the results.
 
The FPS is pretty stable during that scene so it basically goes for the the entire scene at least.

While obviously far from conclusive, it's not different than what Nvidia are them selves doing by relentlessly only showing heaven benchmarks...

It's totally meaningless, for all I know that could be a totally anomalous result. I mean I could probably cherry pick a frame where my 4870 appears faster than a 5870 if I ran the benchmark enough times. Such a comparison is a ridiculous display of grasping at straws by some ATi fanboys on a forum. It holds less weight than the claims that the 8800 GT would beat the 4850 based on some people running 3DMark with a stupendously overclocked 8800 GT against a completely different setup with a 4850 that was rather pedestrian.
 
As for cherry picked frames... guess you failed to take into account the graph that Nvidia themselves showed showing it only matched the 5870 performance in lower tessellated areas.

Sorry to break this to you... But all signs indicate Fermi will be a little more flaccid than you hoped! :p
 
Just look at the other frames the 480 does in unigine, my 5870 is beating it, not looking good for 480 unless you fancy looking at a heavy tessellated dragon all day.
 
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