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Why do people feel the need to offer bad advice on upgrades?
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Im a little thrown by the assumption that overspecifying a computer is a terrible thing.
Am I a misguided fool for using a psu that would happily run two or three copies of my computer simultaneously? Or a wise consumer for not needing to buy a new one for at least 7 years, whatever i upgrade to?
Likewise a gamer that buys an i7 now, isn't going to need to upgrade anything (possibly excepting graphics card) for years and years.
Am I a misguided fool for using a psu that would happily run two or three copies of my computer simultaneously? Or a wise consumer for not needing to buy a new one for at least 7 years, whatever i upgrade to?
Likewise a gamer that buys an i7 now, isn't going to need to upgrade anything (possibly excepting graphics card) for years and years.
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More fail to unlock than unlock...then what you are left with is a mediocre Dual core for the hassle.
Nearly all i7's will do 4ghz PERIOD...Hell I got my C0 i7 stable at 4ghz
But then again I do not what I am doing.No mention of the i5 750 though...faster clocks better and is faster in games and most other things compared to Phenom II.
Indeed...not many mentioned the i5 route though
My issue is with people spouting they have experience of PC hardware when in essence they have never had an INTEL rig in their lives.People making sweeping statements that backup their ridiculous love of one company over the other.
People who clearly know very little about hardware in general both past and present and deem they have insight.When its obvious they don't.
People buying the wrong hardware by listening to these baffoons.
Morally its wrong.
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Hmm...
Your grandparents need something for email, writing letters and some occasional internet browsing. I would say speccing them an i7 and HD 5970 would be somewhat unnecessary.
Exactly my point.
people saying buy what you need now then upgrade in 12 months...I mean this is false econcomy. By the fastest PC kit you can afford right here right now.
Its so simple its unreal...But the People who idealise AMD cannot state this so they have to go with the notion of " don't buy performance you don't need"
Its just wrong.
I would not spec them a PC at all.
A laptop would be fine.
Your point is idealogical to concrete meaning that doesn't exist.
Sorry - was being facetious.
Honestly - I think most current Athlon II, Phenom II, i3, i5 and i7 CPUs are a retailer's whim away from offering decent bang for buck if they aren't there already.
The only CPUs in those ranges I see as being bad value are the horrendously overpriced i7s above the 930. If I had a grand to spend on a CPU I wouldn't spend it on them when the 920 and 930 offer performance so close.
Honestly - I think most current Athlon II, Phenom II, i3, i5 and i7 CPUs are a retailer's whim away from offering decent bang for buck if they aren't there already.
The only CPUs in those ranges I see as being bad value are the horrendously overpriced i7s above the 930. If I had a grand to spend on a CPU I wouldn't spend it on them when the 920 and 930 offer performance so close.
This isn't a reply? ^^
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16103525&postcount=43
That is
Do you have a source for that? Everything I have read has indicated probably a better than 50/50 chance, especially with the 555BE. You talk about FUD .... isn't that exactly what you are doing here?
I've been building pcs since the 90s .. intel and amd. I have no love for one or other - it's pc hardware.
Who are you to decide what is morally wrong and right when it comes to someone elses hardware choice? The OP asked for opinions - people gave him them.
It might be morally wrong if they had a vested financial interest in the company they endorsed ... but I see no evidence of that here.
You clearly have a strong affinity to intel - that's cool, enjoy ... but to call me and other baffoons because we might dare disagree with your opinion way up there on that "moral" high ground of yours is pretty pathetic.
Its dotted all over the net. And 50/50 chance is no way to base a hardware Purchase on if funds are an issue...After all if funds where not an issue then they would't be going with AMD in the first place.
Then you should know that the chances of not getting 4ghz with i7 is rare.
To many post opinion as fact. That's my point.
This is irrelevant..they suggest inferior hardware for some bizzare reason as they DEEM intel as evil. When in fact they should suggest the best hardware that's available to buy regardless of who makes it.
Not at all...I was buying countless Opterons 170's when they had the performance edge...Enjoyed clocking the opty 146's CABYE's and have owned more AMD rigs than intel ones.So I fail to see your point.
I'd probably ovespecify here too. My step-mother has an e8400, 4gb ram, intel G41 motherboard, corsair psu & antec case. She nearly got an ssd too. It makes too little noise for me to be able to tell when it's turned on, and will do everything she asks at mad speeds even if it's never defragmented and hoardes viruses. It's unlikely to break too.
It would be fair to say that most people who have wandered onto these boards have something beyond firefox in mind.
i agree it doesn't make sense.In one thread someone has offered the OP advice to spend 70 odd quid on a dual core AMD chip on the basis that it "might" unlock to 4 cores.
What's the sense in that...?
i've always said if a person wants a quad then they should buy a "real" quad core, not a dual core hoping to unlock it.
Indeed.
Check this out
What about the i3? Athlon II X4 620?
See what I mean...
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From lurking here I have noticed that it is not so much bad advice as it is different opinions; like in real life listen to an opinion and keep an open mind to other possibilities .
yeah i know it's crazy..
this part made me laugh... also his saying it'll unlock 100% and does 4ghz has dual core, so if it doesn't, will he give the money back to the guy, i don't think so
also hmmm in my way of seeing it is a 550 is a 550, a 555 is a 555..
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No they damned well dont.
Stop being hypocritical.
Assuming you're stil talking about gaming, the Athlon II X4 performs pretty badly in games due to lack of cache.
An PII X2 actually beats it in most cases.
Stop trolling.
You're as bad as others if not worse in some cases!
Yes they do. And there are countless benchmarks to prove it.
Well the OP did more than just game and yet someone suggested the X2 over the X4
For gaming at the same price point the i3 beats the Phenom II
Hardly,
I suggest you read up on things before posting in the future
We have clearly read different things then. Ultimately with no proof this is still just your opinion, but of course...
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... you yourself would never post opinion as fact
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It's is completely relevant! What they are doing is not morally wrong as you claim. In fact if they were doing it because they genuinely believed intel were evil one could argue it was in fact the morally the right thing to do!
I digress - this is just semantics. The fact is you singled me out using me as an example as a "buffoon" who is pushing someone down the route of a dual over quad for immoral reasons!
Despite your selective quoting, anyone who checks the original thread will see my original suggestion to the OP was for a quad and my comments on the 555BE were just offered as observations based on my own experience with the 550BE. Not an unreasonable thing to do when someone asks for advice surely?
Maybe others posted something misleading advice? - but that has nothing to do with me and why i took offense at you using me as an example in your little rant.
If you wish to continue your crusade to ensure everyone purchases the hardware that you yourself believe to be the best, then please by all means continue to post your views in the appropriate threads ... however please do not selectively quote me, out of context, in a completely different thread in attempt to twist things to conform to your blinkered view.
Would you advise me to buy 5970 if I game at 1680x1050 as well if I could afford it?
Knowing that in 5-6months, there will be new, better card that will cost half the price, that at this res probably a 5850 is not only enough but will cut through anything just fine ??
Knowing that in 5-6months, there will be new, better card that will cost half the price, that at this res probably a 5850 is not only enough but will cut through anything just fine ??