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Why do people feel the need to offer bad advice on upgrades?
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Can't we all just get along?
Some people just can't ... I guess I'll have to use the ultimate arguing weapon !
I believe that 100% unlocking is BS as PhoenixUK suggested to an OP
... you yourself would never post opinion as fact
I post based on the research,experience and knowledge.
Not on brand loyality.
The mere fact they think INTEL are evil makes the statements and opinions flawed from the start. INTEL are not evil they make processors FFS
Well for the same money you can buy faster chips...
Fair enough I apologise if I offended you
There is no belief.There is just facts.
Now I;m just about to buy a gigabit switch....they are all rated at 1000mbs and yet some are faster than others. Thats the nature of tech.
I want the fastest switch for my money.The most stable and maybe one that support Jumbo packets...
Now one could post get a Netgear or one could suggest get a D link.
Then one might suggest getting the real deal in a HP Procurve Switch 1400-8G
If you are going to offer advice then people shouldn't suggest inferior tech at the same price point. This is clear enough concept for anyone to understand.
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2 camels in a tiny car !!!
Eh?
I have destroyed this nonsense in another thread.
Fact is at certain price points there are winners and losers.
The Dual core AMD's lose so why suggest buying one?
Plus you haven't answered my question....Have you any direct experience with i3/i5/i7?
I do
Then one gets called a scaremonger for posting the truth..or a fanboy for posting a benchmark that destroys the original advice given.
So in essence its a catch 22 situation.
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nonsense ? wait, weren't you keep repeating all the time that youy should buy the best you can afford? why is it wrong choice? it's better than the 5850 and if I can afford it then I should buy it, it beats it in all benchmarks clearly hands down no?
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ah regarding i3/i5/i7, apart from i3 yes. Excellent CPUs - IF you need them and at the right price point.
Buy the best you can afford at the chosen price point.
Guess what?
I'm loaded but I bought an i7 for 100 quid 6gb ram for 100 quid and Asus P6T for 100 quid.
There is offering advice and being silly. You are being silly, posting FUD....I pull you up on it...you ignore my questions and claim all 555 unlock 100% to quad cores.
As everything is subjective? At the end of the day surely its upto the person spending the Dosh to make the decision. What he/she should do and whether to take the advice off of some stranger on a message board as gospel is down to them and people can only really offer their opinion which they may believe is fact. I think people looking to build a system should still ask what others think they should do, but then go and spend time researching the different options, opinions and alternatives. Once they have gained an initial grasp of their options and researched them then they should be able to buy what is right for them or scrap the idea and start again 
Whats wrong with i3?
All will i3 530 will do 4ghz and beat Phenom II in games.
You might want to suggest buying one at this chosen price point
People need to know whats out there...And if you like posting and contributing offer the whole picture rather than an AMD blinkered one.Thats all
Whats wrong with i3?
All will i3 530 will do 4ghz and beat Phenom II in games.
You might want to suggest buying one at this chosen price point
People need to know whats out there...And if you like posting and contributing offer the whole picture rather than an AMD blinkered one.Thats all
Nothing wrong, just said I haven't had a chance to play with one yet.
Those benchs look funny tho, I was getting more FPS in WoW with E2200/E6600/E8400 ; ). Not a very demanding game really, it has it's age and never was demanding to start with, played it with 1900XT and san diego 3700+ and was just as playable as well.
And it doesn't win in all games, it's pretty even most of the time : ). With the fact that AMD is still a bit cheaper and has better upgrade options.... and the chance to unlock as an extra : ).
I'd rather stretch to i5 over i3 to be honest.
Well, regarding that example I've shown with 5970, the same goes with CPUs - you see, if an i3 or i5, or whatever athlonII or pII does the job right and is more than you'll ever want for a certain task, then why bother with i7 ?
Just because you can afford it, doesn't mean you have to buy it.
Buying best you can afford isn't really a good advice.
There are a lot more factors to it and what I don't understand is when you say: get i7 if you can afford it. But what's the point? If a lower end CPU will do the job just as well? Future proofing is a nonsense and in most cases, especially in gaming the difference is minimal or next to 0.
There are many other examples where the i3 wins over.
My point was there are other alternatives at certain price points other than AMD
And a Wolfdale beats i3, so why even get i3 instead of a used 775 and Wolfdale, it will also clock to 4-4.5GHz
Look at the clock speed.
The come back to me
Depends on what the person was coming from.
I have seen people offering upgrades paths from s775 wolfies to AM3 rigs for no reason other than to get the OP to buy into the AMD ideal.
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people offering andvice/advising other people to get the same/similar equipment as them through their own experience of ownership is to be expected. That's what helps us get something along the lines of what we expected/hoped for
What is really annoying is when people say "you don't need that much power" or "you don't need to spend that much" etc...........How the **** do you know?
Then they go on to offer them something that is clearly a brand loyalty suggestion.
Wether they use that much power for a couple of hours per week or not has nothing to do with it, if it does the job in the shortest time available/best quality/speed etc and that's what they want then thats fine if it's what they've asked for.
It's people trying to TELL people what they do and don't need and shove them down a certain path where they might not want to go that's really annoying.
I'm glad I have the knowledge to get my own equipment as I really feel for the people that know next to nothing and have to tread through a mine field of choices before even getting close to a decision.
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A Wolfdale will still win even when BOTH chips are clocked to the max that they can support.Look at the clock speed.
The come back to me
Here is a suggestion, don't ASK someone what you should get ... go look at some benches, go look at how high stuff clocks, go look at what people say about their setups in reviews etc and then decide for yourself ffs.It's people trying to TELL people what they do and don't need and shove them down a certain path where they might not want to go that's really annoying.
The number of "shall I get i5 or i7" or "shall I get C2D or C2Q" threads is just stupid, as is people bitching about the advice given.
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