GDC Sony press conference.

In terms of sales, not opinion, I think PS3 will be best seller this year as globally PS3 has been outselling 360 since last Sept (Slim), Wii sales are still high but falling. Global for this week are:

Hardware:
DS 289,970 (-7%) 127,255,831
Wii 277,079 (-9%) 68,354,047
PS3 206,370 (+10%) 32,616,712
360 152,026 (-7%) 38,327,042
PSP 113,704 (-3%) 56,798,930
PS2 39,184 (-6%)

Software:
Wii 2,506,317 (-2%) 455,783,482 6.67
PS3 1,965,171 (+8%) 217,095,261 6.66
DS 1,597,437 (+6%) 531,292,947 4.17
360 1,571,048 (-15%) 330,591,170 8.63
PSP 617,219 (+28%) 147,022,366 2.59
PS2 238,221 (-0%) n/a n/a

Demon's figures above are US only.
 
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I expected PS3 to take over the 360 about a year after release. I'm quite surprised that it's taken this long to really get into gear.
 
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Demon said:
What worries me though is that people are quite defensive of 'move', despite it too being a pure Wii esque solution, almost as if they do believe it's got real potential for more hardcore gamers.. , I certainly don't agree with that..
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IMO as it stands I would be more inclined to purchase Move more than Natal, purely because some of the software on the Wii works well with the Wiimote. Take Tiger Woods and Pro Evo as an example I enjoyed both games using the Wiimote i just had an issue with the hardware (Wii) so if I can get better looking games and a (hopefully) better control scheme then I may be inclined to consider Move.
 
Mr Latte said:
As for sales I was curious about the best selling games in the past 2-3 years not so much weekly/monthly sales. FM3 is an example look at its early sales but see how underpar its actually done in general. (hell i even bought 3 copies)
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Err, FM3 has sold well, it's considered a success, it still even charts in the top 10 UK chart regularly, it might not be GT levels of sales, but it's certainly seemed to be in the region of Uncharted 2 for example.. how is that 'sub-par'..?

Not trying to inflame system wars and please you already know how i feel about this fanboy topic. Im trying to make an assumption based on factors not personal reasons.
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I know you don't mean to, but waxing lyrical about anything 'sony'/PS3 is hard to not get drawn into.

Why I think PS3 has the chance to be the best selling system this year is because its the most improved in sales of the bunch (aparently) Titles like "Heavy Rain", "GOW 3" are quite unique. GT5 is a further sure winner that will likely sell more in Europe alone to what FM3 does worldwide. Sony just have that kind following and strong franchises. Is it providing gamers with more better games recently, particulary in "Exclusives"?
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This year is also good for the 360 notably Alan Wake, Halo Reach, Crackdown 2, etc, not too shabby at all..

Now thats not to say X360 hasnt got great games with more coming neither but I see a market and more reason for a X360 owner to consider buying a PS3 than a PS3 owner also looking to get a X360. Fewer people these days stick to one console which I totally agree with.
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I think there is every reason for a PS3 owner to get a 360, some great deals (Elite + Games for £160 recently), a great back catalogue and XBL.. And I agree there are as good reasons for 360 owners to buy a PS3, but I don't see one as being wholly better then the other, unlike yourself.


I dont mind standing on the fence and saying I think Sonys chances are good this year, particulary now seeing "Move" and 2010 will bring Im sure many other surprises perhaps at E3.

Sony seem to be getting back to old form id say.
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Sony are 'catching up' quite well, but have you not learnt that every year you say it is the year of the PS3, the laws of statistics says one year you'll get lucky ;)
 
Top ten total software sales:

1 - Wii Sports (Wii)
2 - Super Mario Bros (NES)
3 - Pokemon Red/Green/Blue (GB)
4 - Tetris (GB)
5 - Duck Hunt (NES)
6 - Wii Play (Wii)
7 - Nintendogs (DS)
8 - Pokemon Gold/Silver (GB)
9 - Wii Fit (Wii)
10 - Mario Kat Wii (Wii)

You can see why Sony and MS want a slice of the pie.
 
Nanoman said:
In terms of sales, not opinion, I think PS3 will be best seller this year as globally PS3 has been outselling 360 since last Sept (Slim), Wii sales are still high but falling. Global for this week are:

Hardware:
DS 289,970 (-7%) 127,255,831
Wii 277,079 (-9%) 68,354,047
PS3 206,370 (+10%) 32,616,712
360 152,026 (-7%) 38,327,042
PSP 113,704 (-3%) 56,798,930
PS2 39,184 (-6%)

Software:
Wii 2,506,317 (-2%) 455,783,482 6.67
PS3 1,965,171 (+8%) 217,095,261 6.66
DS 1,597,437 (+6%) 531,292,947 4.17
360 1,571,048 (-15%) 330,591,170 8.63
PSP 617,219 (+28%) 147,022,366 2.59
PS2 238,221 (-0%) n/a n/a

Demon's figures above are US only.
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Indeed they are, I can't find good montly EU + NA figures, I tend to discount Japan due to it being such a closed market..

But I'm just trying to show that the PS3 is still just 'vying' it out in the 'western world', which goes against this unstoppable all conquering spin that is being put on it., PS3 sells a little more in the EU and a little less in the US, only Japan adds a good 30K/month or so on top..
 
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Dont actually think the wiimote could do this http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-sony/63057
especially when he is moving around and it tracks him, looks pretty cool. I read the ball is fully RGB so with that paint program the ball at the end of the wand changes colour to the one you pick so you know what colour you have. This could be used as some kind of health meter for example green healthy, amber need health, red nearly dead or some kind of way for which spell you are using etc.
 
msmalls74 said:
Dont actually think the wiimote could do this http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-sony/63057
especially when he is moving around and it tracks him, looks pretty cool. I read the ball is fully RGB so with that paint program the ball at the end of the wand changes colour to the one you pick so you know what colour you have. This could be used as some kind of health meter for example green healthy, amber need health, red nearly dead or some kind of way for which spell you are using etc.
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It's that sort of 1:1 tracking that I think will make a difference to some of these casual games, but for some reason, the Move games shown all seem more gesture based or 'pointing', that demo shows that in some capacity (2 arms at least) it could do something more immersive then just gesture based control.

It does look good tech though, never disputed that, I prefer the tech to the Wii, but surprised why they aren't making more of it at the moment (time may change this). Although it has been noted the weakness in head tracking is usually that it requires good lighting, you really need IR or similar as well to make them much more accurate..
 
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Not sure if its on here but this one game makes Move worth a purchase lol

Hands On Slider, SCEJ’s PlayStation Move Game Where…

slider … you help a girl, riding an office chair, escape from the Yakuza.

Slider (working title) wasn’t revealed last night, but Sony showed it today, ten minutes ago actually, and it’s SCEJ’s only announced PlayStation Move title. The concept is quite simple. You use the PlayStation Move to guide the girl. Tilt it to turn. Flick it up to jump. While you’re rolling down a hill you can duck under objects by pressing the trigger button and spin the chair in midair with the move button.

The girl is a secretary and one of the playable characters. A dude detective is the other. So far, he hasn’t been selected, but I hear he wears a tie and has suspenders.

Get to the goal and you escape in a broken down van. While Slider sounds like a short game, Sony plans to make it a full title with many levels. As offbeat as this sounds, Slider is confirmed for North America. It’s a PlayStation Move launch tit
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And watch the video the text is in Japanese but the video is english
http://gs.inside-games.jp/news/223/22379.html

:D
 
Sumanji said:
Logic fail :confused:
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Not quite (Well maybe a little ;)), are you seriously saying that Japan and it's game culture is totally applicable to the 'west'..? Is the fact the 360 sells ten times less each month there not a bit of an anomaly?

But I don't mind, even without comparing totals, I'm totally aware the PS3 is doing plenty fine, and I'm happy about that, it deserves to.. It will surpass the 360 hopefully this year, but I'm just objecting to superlatives like 'unstoppable' etc.. this just leads to this type of discussion..

If only someone had thought of that sooner...
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What I mean is 1:1 tracking of the body, as in MS Smalls vid shows (The Robot arms).. Sorry for the confusion!.. :) The boxing demo on 'Move' had plenty of negative reactions due to it not being a 1:1 body tracked game, but just a gesture style of control, making it 1:1 body mapped might rely on your own physical stamina/skill, but I don't see in boxing why I can't box as I would in real life and have to give in to these slow/ponderous almost turn based game control techniques, especially since as that vid shows it could do a form of 1:1 realtime body mapping.. :)
 
Demon...

Just a point your talking of incorrectly.
I stated that with everything Sony are doing and games coming that...

"they seem to be unstoppable"
I dont think thats being definate or acting biased but based on their ability last year and this year to be up in sales when the industry and others are generally down. The platform is beginning to pick pace for various reasons "Move" & "3DTV" are just two more reasons it may do so.
 
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Mr Latte said:
Demon...

Just a point your talking of incorrectly.
I stated that with everything Sony are doing and games coming that...

"they seem to be unstoppable"
I dont think thats being definate or acting biased but based on their ability last year and this year to be up in sales when the industry and others are generally down. The platform is beginning to pick pace for various reasons "Move" & "3DTV" are just two more reasons it may do so.
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Stop using phrases with superlatives in them then? simple really..

MS have comparably loads of 1st party titles this year, Natal, etc, but we don't go around bleating on about how they 'seem to be unstoppable' because as we know they are pretty much still vying it out between each other..

Just show some balance and I won't feel it necessary to pipe up to try and bring the conversation down to the the real world.. you sound like a a 1 man Sony Marketing Hype Machine at times, which is fine, but it shows a large degree of bias..

I've been here long enough and had various conversations with you, so I know exactly what your stance is with Sony and MS, I don't know why you pretend otherwise?
 
Demon said:
What I mean is 1:1 tracking of the body, as in MS Smalls vid shows (The Robot arms).. Sorry for the confusion!.. :) The boxing demo on 'Move' had plenty of negative reactions due to it not being a 1:1 body tracked game, but just a gesture style of control, making it 1:1 body mapped might rely on your own physical stamina/skill, but I don't see in boxing why I can't box as I would in real life and have to give in to these slow/ponderous almost turn based game control techniques, especially since as that vid shows it could do a form of 1:1 realtime body mapping.. :)
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Even with natal having the (potential) capability of full-body tracking, actually implementing the 1:1 tracking within a game and making it fun is still going to be incredibly difficult. I can't see them coming out at E3, using your example, with a full 1:1 boxing game. It'll just be more of the 'enhanced' Wii and Eyetoy stuff that Sony has been showing off this week (so no wonder the journalists have been loving it!). :)
 
Demon said:
The boxing demo on 'Move' had plenty of negative reactions due to it not being a 1:1 body tracked game, but just a gesture style of control, making it 1:1 body mapped might rely on your own physical stamina/skill, but I don't see in boxing why I can't box as I would in real life and have to give in to these slow/ponderous almost turn based game control techniques, especially since as that vid shows it could do a form of 1:1 realtime body mapping.. :)
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Longest sentence ever. :p


But the reason for that is because it's incredibly difficult to not only judge your movements, but to then assess the movement, and have it's power, accuracy, and position all assigned to display on screen for the many different moves you can make in this way. What the Wii, and I assume Move, has/will done/do is either have a set of moves that you must recreate, or to have one punching movement like Wii Boxing with the same effect with every punch, regardless or position, speed, or type.
 
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