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asim18 said:
It is linked to the bill payer though.

If you use torrent to download illegaly, everyone knows exactly what IP address is downloading that torrent. The owner of the material being distributed can then get a court order for the ISP to give your name and address.
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Except it doesn't work like that due to open WIFI and tor
 
JHeaton said:
Very. Unfortunately, whilst the film and music industries are applying such pressure, it's what we will end up with.
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That breaches our human rights. Under European Law we have a right to be innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): "Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law". This convention has been adopted by treaty and is binding on all Council of Europe members. Currently (and in any foreseeable expansion of the EU) every country member of the European Union is also member to the Council of Europe, so this stands for EU members as a matter of course. Nevertheless, this assertion is iterated verbatim in Article 48 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.
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Read that you ****face dumb wit stupid **** backwards Government.
 
rypt said:
Except it doesn't work like that due to open WIFI and tor
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They can get the your details from your ISP. My brother got a letter from a porn company asking for £495 for downloading and distributing "UK Student House 3" using the bittorrent protocol. They said they got his details from BE* using a court order.
 
asim18 said:
They can get the your details from your ISP. My brother got a letter from a porn company asking for £495 for downloading and distributing "UK Student House 3". They said they got his details from BE* using a court order.
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More than likely a fishing expedition.
 
LordSplodge said:
That breaches our human rights. Under European Law we have a right to be innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.
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I completely agree with you, but the only way I see it changing is if we all stand up and fight for those rights. In a world where money drives everything, we will be pushed around like this unless we choose to act (and we most certainly should).
 
asim18 said:
They can get the your details from your ISP. My brother got a letter from a porn company asking for £495 for downloading and distributing "UK Student House 3" using the bittorrent protocol. They said they got his details from BE* using a court order.
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was it a good film thou? :D
 
JHeaton said:
I completely agree with you, but the only way I see it changing is if we all stand up and fight for those rights. In a world where money drives everything, we will be pushed around like this unless we choose to act (and we most certainly should).
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But who is willing to get off their backsides to actually do something about it? Not most people.
 
asim18 said:
They can get the your details from your ISP. My brother got a letter from a porn company asking for £495 for downloading and distributing "UK Student House 3" using the bittorrent protocol. They said they got his details from BE* using a court order.
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They may get MY details, but they cannot prove it was me who used the connection due to as I said me running tor and having an open (but speedlimited on the open part) wifi.
 
LordSplodge said:
But who is willing to get off their backsides to actually do something about it? Not most people.
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This is true, however I think awareness of it being raised would increase the number of people who would get up and speak out, as would someone else setting an example. A lot of people get bullied by the big companies and fear that it will only make things worse if they stand up to them.

I, for one, wouldn't have a problem standing up for my rights.
 
LordSplodge said:
That breaches our human rights. Under European Law we have a right to be innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

Read that you ****face dumb wit stupid **** backwards Government.
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Except that's all pointless because you're not being charged with a criminal offence. :confused:
 
They need to get with the times and give us what we want, unlimited access to music and HD movies, I don't mind paying as long as there's no restrictions. They don't even need to pay for the bandwidth, they could use P2P. Adapt or go under.
 
Encrypt, encrypt, encrypt. Get a VPN connection and encrypt your hard drive and the government can't see what your doing online nor what's on your computer.
 
Seems to me like the government are farting about and don't know what to do.

Their proposed approach is crap. Do people just keep downloading until they get a warning letter?
If internet downloading really does stop, then copied dvds will just become the norm again.

Also, why bang on about bit-torrent, where is rapidshare, usenet, newsgroups?

I found the program quite funny. The student 'oh noes my internet is slow'. The close up of the laptop said 71k/b per sec, hardly super slow! Just leave the torrent on overnight then.

All this internet is a human right EU stuff will screw over any bill anyway.

The people missing out are the greedy record companies, the artists are much less affected.

It also clearly highlighted downloading off someone elses wireless, that is so 2005.
 
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