Digital Economy Bill passed through the Lords
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You would have to codify proper fair use rights first, ie being able to rip your own DVDs/CDs, even then there are far too many holes in your idea, the largest being the assertion and proof of "permission"
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Yeah, a brilliant example of preaching to the choir, you only saw the adverts saying don't steal this material if... you hadn't stolen it.
Didn't work. Nothing will. It will happen.
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Isnt it great how the general public are getting dictated to about fraud when they just got away with expenses fraud.
If they have commited more than three offences does that mean they get their expenses taken away from them?
If they have commited more than three offences does that mean they get their expenses taken away from them?
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Spotify? Sounds like exactly the service you are advocating
A combination of Spotify and last.fm, where music can be saved and re-used for the current monthly premium. I would pay for that.
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Spotify? Sounds like exactly the service you are advocating
however spotify when free gives you adverts (extremely annoying) and does not give me copies. Plus streaming is a load of good if your internet connection is crippled at peak times due to being over subscribed. I can't stream live radio at all on a weekday at about 7. I don't deny spotify is a push in the right direction but just hasn't made it there quite yet.
What i would like is a subscription service built into one of my packages wether it be internet, phone, tele, whatever that gives me unlimited downloads for a fee and i'm free to do with it what i want. When the infrastructure is there and the internet is readily available to all at high speeds then streaming everything would be a viable option but as it is now, nope.
It already is available at a decent price.
You can buy albums for next to nothing online, along with individual songs
And films at that matter
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There was a case on panorama last night on music downloads:
It said that the average legal user spent about £44 per year on music.
And the illegal downer actually spent £77 per year on music.
Doesnt sound bad?
Which makes sense as you are probably open to new types of songs by testing different types of music.
I dont think the music execs like it because the groups can self promote now and keep the money for themselves.
Cant say its hurt the film industry either. What did Avatar make, £2billion?
Proves that if you make a good film then you will get the crowds and the money.
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That's a matter of opinion to be honest. What seems fair to you might not be fair to him.
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Avatar Grossed $2,638,344,000...
How is illegal file sharing affecting the movie industry again ?
These corrupt government officials are selling out our freedom for some money on the side. They know NOTHING about the internet but yet they think they know what it is best for it.
Something seriously wrong when lordy mandy goes away to an island and meets with the music and movie industry. Only to return with the Digital Britian Bill and it passes without a hitch.
They don't even discuss if we need the bill to begin with, they take it as a given. All they discuss is how much of our freedom to take away.
This is how it starts, with a bill "to protect the artists work", if you actually read the bill, you will see they are trying to take over DNS more rights for the movie and music industry to invade your privacy all in the name of their profits. Realy bothers me
How is illegal file sharing affecting the movie industry again ?
These corrupt government officials are selling out our freedom for some money on the side. They know NOTHING about the internet but yet they think they know what it is best for it.
Something seriously wrong when lordy mandy goes away to an island and meets with the music and movie industry. Only to return with the Digital Britian Bill and it passes without a hitch.
They don't even discuss if we need the bill to begin with, they take it as a given. All they discuss is how much of our freedom to take away.
This is how it starts, with a bill "to protect the artists work", if you actually read the bill, you will see they are trying to take over DNS more rights for the movie and music industry to invade your privacy all in the name of their profits. Realy bothers me
Post hoc ergo propter hoc?
Or in other words, what evidence is there for the higher spending being a result of downloading.
So for example a 16 year old downloads some songs on his/her laptop and there internet gets cut off. What does this mean for the father who is a Doctor and needs to check very important emails and data. Or the mum who runs her own online business. Do these people also loose the internet?
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Avatar Grossed $2,638,344,000...
How is illegal file sharing affecting the movie industry again ?
These corrupt government officials are selling out our freedom for some money on the side. They know NOTHING about the internet but yet they think they know what it is best for it.
Something seriously wrong when lordy mandy goes away to an island and meets with the music and movie industry. Only to return with the Digital Britian Bill and it passes without a hitch.
They don't even discuss if we need the bill to begin with, they take it as a given. All they discuss is how much of our freedom to take away.
This is how it starts, with a bill "to protect the artists work", if you actually read the bill, you will see they are trying to take over DNS more rights for the movie and music industry to invade your privacy all in the name of their profits. Realy bothers me
Avatar is actually a very good example of how "file sharing" has helped the industry.
Go back to 1997 when Titanic came out, file sharing was very minimal, with only a hand ful of people using FTP or BB's and certainly not for downloading entire movies.
File sharing now in 2010 is very much everywhere and easily accessible yet Avatar still made more money in 3 weeks than Titanic did in 13 years. How exactly is file sharing impacting its income again ?
Only reason I would say its helped is because people I know who have downloaded the film, went on to watch it in the Cinema, in some cases they have not been to the cinema in years.
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I can feel the pain of the millionaire artist not receiving an extra few million, the producers not getting their extra few millions.
Due to this they are only using golden cups for tonights drink with their meal, not diamond cups that they could have had if you only spent a little more
How could you guys do this and be happy in your almost 85% taxed income lives?
You can clearly see the govt got a fair bit of ££ for this to go through, they really are squeezing the public and limiting the rights day by day.
Due to this they are only using golden cups for tonights drink with their meal, not diamond cups that they could have had if you only spent a little more
How could you guys do this and be happy in your almost 85% taxed income lives?
You can clearly see the govt got a fair bit of ££ for this to go through, they really are squeezing the public and limiting the rights day by day.
yes
but i dont think they will cut you off straight away
they will write to you and warn you ..
so said parents, would make sure said 16 year old stops downloading pirate material