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Why, plenty countries do just fine with no monarchy.

Look back over our last 5 or 6 PM's, would you really want to have them as head of state?

It is so archaic, thats what my problem with it is. Archaic, and not relevent to the modern world.

In which case we sit back and enjoy the profit? Or do you propose a setup whereby the Royal's property is stolen from them as part of removing them from power?
 
Why, plenty countries do just fine with no monarchy.

It is so archaic, thats what my problem with it is. Archaic, and not relevent to the modern world.

Yeah you're right. Those elected representatives have the best interests of the country at heart and haven't pretty much **** us over the last 13 years.
 
That isn't really the case. The royal family do a huge amount of stuff in the UK and quite a few people have contact with them.

Read the thread ;), I was talking political involvement in Westminster/UK.

Ie the mainstream of UK politics, there is none.

This was in reference to:

"I think they bring a bit of stability in the face of changing governments"
 
Yeah you're right. Those elected representatives have the best interests of the country at heart and haven't pretty much **** us over the last 13 years.

And.. what is your Queen going to do about that?

You are a fool if you think she is capable of anything.

There could be 30 idiots in 10 Downing Street past or future, again.. they can and would do nothing.

Look back over our last 5 or 6 PM's, would you really want to have them as head of state?

No, I want nothing to do with Westminster.
 
In which case we sit back and enjoy the profit? Or do you propose a setup whereby the Royal's property is stolen from them as part of removing them from power?

If we voted to remove them and become a republic etc, they still own the civil service and ... hmm the countries ocean beds for example?

They cannot keep everything.

Hmmm.

Purely renationalising things that have been misappropriated from the state.
 
Monarchy is not just about goverments as uk citizens see it. Tourism is a rebut agaisnt the cost issue.

So we should stick with it because foreigners may find it charming? Isn't what the British think more important?

If the UK is going to retain the monarchy (which it seems most people favour), then it should be for well thought out reasons, not for some imagined prestige or for what we think the tourists want. That's my view.
 
And.. what is your Queen going to do about that?

You are a fool if you think she is capable of anything.

There could be 30 idiots in 10 Downing Street past or future, again.. they can and would do nothing.


I didn't say she would do anything about them, (technically capable tho she may be), I was merely pointing out that the elected system is also terrible what with us being in the worst financial crisis ever, highest unemployment and fighting an unnecessary war.

What system would you adopt?
 
The Royal Family are one of the best things about this country. The amount of money they bring into the country far outweighs any downsides people can bring up.
 
So, for those who are anti-monarchy, what would you propose replacing it with? Make the case for that as you are arguing against the status quo. ;)
 
So, for those who are anti-monarchy, what would you propose replacing it with? Make the case for that as you are arguing against the status quo. ;)

Exactly what we have, with that family no longer being royal.

Quite simple.

As I said, its not like they have much political day to day experience or involvement of running the country or what have you. Strip them out, leave them their heraldry and money.

I am sure tourists will still come to visit them.
 
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Exactly what we have, with that family no longer being royal.

Quite simple.

So you want the Prime Minister to be head of state as well as head of the government? Is he going to pick up the slack on all the royal engagements?

As I said, its not like they have much political day to day experience or involvement of running the country or what have you. Strip them out, leave them their heraldry and money.

I am sure tourists will still come to visit them.

Are you also going to give them back all of the Crown Estates which currently pays in to the treasury?
 
So you want the Prime Minister to be head of state as well as head of the government? Is he going to pick up the slack on all the royal engagements?



Are you also going to give them back all of the Crown Estates which currently pays in to the treasury?

If there is no royalty, there are no royal engegements. Of course.

So sorry, no garden party this year. Buy your own pimms. :p

No, they are not entitled to everything they have their name on.
 
Send miliband, its what he's paid for.

Yes, everything RDM.

Want me to spell it out?

So you want to steal their possessions and money and kick them out??

Then give the ~ 1000 diplomatic engagements they have every year to Miliband (a great representative of the country btw, has a real presence!) to do on top of his own workload.

Yep, sounds like a good plan, lets get to it.
 
The Queen has a done a fantastic job of head of state for almost her entire life. I dont think people give her enough credit.

I am all for the Monarchy. Yes I know times change, but this nation has had a monarchy for thousands of years. It would be wrong to remove it now. I think Charles will make an excellent king.
 
I look forward to the day when the government stealing property from people is supported and commended as a course of action... Oh wait, some people already desire such a ridiculously authoritarian society...
 
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