EA follows Ubisoft, will sell titles with 'always on' DRM

Pyroblaze said:
They weren't jumping on any bandwagon, i'm not quite sure how your post is relevant to mine. I was talking about people who usually don't buy games giving in and actually making a purchase due to the length of time the crack is taking.

I do however understand what you are saying, but proper boycotts won't happen.

I'd be curious to see how much this new DRM will affect them in the future as regardless of stability issues, not everyone even has the net, not everyone wants it and not everyone can get it. That has to impact significantly on future sales once the word is properly out on it, so i wonder if the gains from pirates now buying is enough to offset it.
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I guess but those people weren't pirating because of the DRM, they just pirate because... well whatever reason they have. But come on, its the first game released with that DRM, subsequent ones will always be easier to pirate once they know how. If you can't hold off buying it then you obviously weren't comitted to it.

'true' pirates won't buy it because its taken longer than 24 hours to crack (or isn't already done before release). Besides, it won't be long till they try to log in 1 day to find Ubisoft servers down or another DDoS has blocked them access and they get ****ed off.
 
kylew said:
Please don't start this nonsense.

The point is you've bought SOMETHING which you have the legal right to SELL ON.
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I was about to write a post arguing against this but it turns out you're right. I do apologise.

So, how can they get away with preventing you from selling it?
 
Borrish said:
I was about to write a post arguing against this but it turns out you're right. I do apologise.

So, how can they get away with preventing you from selling it?
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They will try to lock the hard copy purchases of the game in to a service like steam, the way they have done with MW2.

However, when that method goes en masse, I can see overall sales decreasing as there are a lot of people who always sell on their games after completing them, rightly so of course.
 
Chronictank said:
Its probably been mentioned umpteen times but this has nothing to do with piracy, they are trying to kill second hand games and trade-in's

In that respect they are probably making money, personally i havent bothered with any of the games with the 'online only' nonsense
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What second hand PC games market??? There isnt one to kill.

Also there is nothing to stop you creating a new Uplay account for each game and then selling on anyway.
 
n111ck said:
What second hand PC games market??? There isnt one to kill.

Also there is nothing to stop you creating a new Uplay account for each game and then selling on anyway.
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You're now condoning breaking the publishers terms and conditions. Not that I've read them, but it probably stipulates no account transferring.

If the publisher was feeling vindictive they would probably end up cancelling lots of account once they notice address/email associated with account changed, and completely different IP address accessing it.
 
this whole buying a licence to play the game/music crap ticks me off more than the anti piracy stuff. im lucky enough to have a fairly stable always on internet connection and i mostly play online anyways so the DRM here isnt too big an issue for me. but this whole thing of you havnt bought the game, just the right to play it just makes my blood boil. same goes for things like music too.
 
This is &#$%ing ridiculous. To all you nay-sayers believing we all should have reliable, always-on ADSL – stick your head out the window and realise that not everyone lives in your ideal little world. I know of THREE individuals already who will be unable to play games with this type of DRM installed.

The first is my old man – I built him a gaming PC last year which he runs in the spare room. His main PC is still in his living area. He has a single port ADSL modem so the gaming PC is not connected to the web. Now are you saying that it’s perfectly reasonable for him to pony up an extra $100 for a wireless modem so he can play games that require a continuous connection? Then I need to start thinking about M$ patches, AV and firewall vulnerabilities…

The second two are colleagues who live in rural NZ. One of them has only dial-up at home and the other has an intermittent connection – he played WoW was playing for a time so already knows how bad it is.

These 3 users are ligit gamers with a right to enjoy decent single player PC gaming. But thanks to this new DRM, they’ll be $%!# outta luck.

Yeah – I can be mad at pirates for forcing this implementation, but really – the final decision lay with EA and Ubisoft and they seriously #@%&ed up.

Ass Creed 2 is at the top of my wish for this month, but I WILL not be buying a copy until they patch this draconian DRM crap away.
 
F2kSel said:
And with EA you now get to pay to play the Demo http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27759/Analyst_EA_To_Release_Paid_DLC_Prior_To_Packaged_Game_Launches.php
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I never thought i'd see the day i had to pirate a Demo...

Who gives a damn about Gran Turismo. Play 1 you play them all. Besides that isn't the pc. I guess its because they know once people get a free to play demo and realise how **** the game is they won't want to pay for the full release. I certainly won't be buying CnC4 given how far downhill the series (and RTS in general) has gone.
 
Bane said:
You're now condoning breaking the publishers terms and conditions. Not that I've read them, but it probably stipulates no account transferring.

If the publisher was feeling vindictive they would probably end up cancelling lots of account once they notice address/email associated with account changed, and completely different IP address accessing it.
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The license cannot infringe on basic rights in any country. In any country that is a member of the EU that includes allowing the buyer to sell the game afterwards.
 
Talrinys said:
The license cannot infringe on basic rights in any country. In any country that is a member of the EU that includes allowing the buyer to sell the game afterwards.
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That reads good, but does it work in practicality?

There are probably so many loop holes that can be exploited by the publisher that it would require some combined legal action brought by the customers to even register a blip on the radar.
 
Bane said:
That reads good, but does it work in practicality?

There are probably so many loop holes that can be exploited by the publisher that it would require some combined legal action brought by the customers to even register a blip on the radar.
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Unlikely. After all you can sell it even when its connected to your account, its just tedious and very untrustworthy. The companies tend to put it in there EULA or TaC. I highly doubt if you challenged the company they wouldn't have a bucketload of loopholes at there disposal though.
 
Well I hope people will become more discerning in future.

The number of people in the C&C4 thread that are saying "I pre-ordered; woe is me" is quite high.

Don't pre-order (it really isn't necessary anymore) and don't gamble on games you aren't sure about. Unless you've got money to burn, in which case the 2nd hand market situation doesn't bother you.

If this happens, no doubt EA/Ubi would blame the declining sales on piracy again, so we probably can't win either way there, but at least you can save some hard-earned.
 
FoxEye said:
Well I hope people will become more discerning in future.

The number of people in the C&C4 thread that are saying "I pre-ordered; woe is me" is quite high.

Don't pre-order (it really isn't necessary anymore) and don't gamble on games you aren't sure about. Unless you've got money to burn, in which case the 2nd hand market situation doesn't bother you.

If this happens, no doubt EA/Ubi would blame the declining sales on piracy again, so we probably can't win either way there, but at least you can save some hard-earned.
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Blame it on piracy all they like, it only proves that a) the countermeasure sucks and b) people aren't happy with it. So really all they could say is "we've shot ourselves in the foot".

I agree about preordering... very few games these days are worth preordering, especially when very few of them actually offer a sodding discount for it. Unless its coming from a company you trust not to do anything stupid a week before release, preordering the moment its available is just dumb. Look at MW2... after loads of preorders were in they suddenly announced they were releasing an epic console port and not even bothering with the pc player base. People got what they deserved here if they're unhappy with it. Besides, CnC4 will be further dumbing down of the genre so i can't say it'll be worth the money anyway.
 
FoxEye said:
Don't pre-order (it really isn't necessary anymore) and don't gamble on games you aren't sure about. Unless you've got money to burn, in which case the 2nd hand market situation doesn't bother you.d.
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preordering gets you some good freebies, early delivery and a good deal.

Yoiu can always cancel preorders though if something comes up that you don't like.
 
After reading a few articles from some of the links here, its amazing to hear people like the lead designer of C&C4 say ' we are opening up RTS to a much wider audience as its becoming a niche so we need to deliver a more rewarding gameplay experience to more people....blah....blah.....blah

Ya game is crap man ! Why don't you listen to what people want instead of reeling off inane management speak ! Do they actually believe what they are shovelling ?

Good god, they say RTS is getting to be a niche , no it isn't there just aren't any games worth time or money as people like them insist on destroying the genre by not listening !

Make a half decent game and there won't be any problems !
 
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