Make me skinny?

[Snax]

A big mac meal has between 1100 and 1400 calories.

That will take someone weighing 200lb running 12 min miles approximately 9 miles to run off.

You can just ignore diet, but you'll get a better result if you look at both. You don't have to become a monk and live on sawdust and water, just consider what you are putting into your body.

This is what is so good about running!

If you eat a big mac meal and then run, the indigestion will hurt. You only do it once... Then you switch to something light before the run, your appetite is suppressed after the run and even eating a big mac meal for dinner will mean you have a calorie deficit over the day.

 

[Jonny69]

2 cans of Mackerel Fillets (in sauce preferable)
100grams of Couscous
Lots of Spinach leaves.

As a 10-stoner I ought to point out that I would never be able to eat 2 tins of fish and that much couscous in one sitting. Maybe half that and we're there

 

[craptakular]

Yeh I really don't wanna eat anymore fast food lol. I'll probably be dead of a heart attack before 40 if I keep this up lol.

Gonna switch to healthy food and exercising.

 

[D1ngd0ng]

Ignore all the **** about diet and nutrition etc.

Rubbish, we are not talking about strict dieting when getting ready for a show but basic healthy/balanced eating

You cannot go through life eating pizza, curry, kebab, chinese, Mcdonalds every night of the week. A balanced diet is a MUST even if its just to ensure you consume the right vitamins.

 

[Snax]

Rubbish, we are not talking about strict dieting when getting ready for a show but basic healthy/balanced eating

You cannot go through life eating pizza, curry, kebab, chinese, Mcdonalds every night of the week. A balanced diet is a MUST even if its just to ensure you consume the right vitamins.

The reason a lot of people yo yo in weight is exactly because of this mentality. They deny themselves food they want to eat in exchange for "healthy" food. Eventually this pressure overwhelms them and the diet collapses.

It is better to concetrate on exercise and building up that area of your life. the body is incredibly good at adapting; if you start doing serious exercise, your diet will naturally improve without the conscious effort of what you should and shouldn't eat.

This is much more sustainable mentally than a "should,ought to, must only eat" approach, which normally ends in burn out.

Do exercise and eat what you want to eat.

 

[Raymond Lin]

I did the opposite to most people above is saying, no exercise, but just eat better.

First, stop eating crap, stop eating ready meals, and start eating Fresh Meat and Veg.

Don't snack.

No junk food.

That's basically it, lost almost 3 Stone in 8 months. Size 31 Jeans (32 is actually a little loose!). BTW, you can still eat NICE food, like a steak, a big one is only like 500cal, have a salad on the side instead of chips and you'll be STUFFED and much better for you than curry or pizza. Have porridge for breakfast, and just watch what you eat, resist having biscuits with your tea, they are like 80cal EACH !!

Remember that what you eat, you have to burn away again.

 

[ben90]

The reason a lot of people yo yo in weight is exactly because of this mentality. They deny themselves food they want to eat in exchange for "healthy" food. Eventually this pressure overwhelms them and the diet collapses.

It is better to concetrate on exercise and building up that area of your life. the body is incredibly good at adapting; if you start doing serious exercise, your diet will naturally improve without the conscious effort of what you should and shouldn't eat.

This is much more sustainable mentally than a "should,ought to, must only eat" approach, which normally ends in burn out.

Do exercise and eat what you want to eat.

There is some truth in what you say.

Loosing and gaining weight isnt about WHAT you eat, its about HOW MUCH you eat. Too much of any food will change your weight. Eating mcdonalds every day will not make you put on fat, as long as your keeping calories right.

How ever, its not exactly healthy... I would rather be fat, but healthy on the inside, than fit on the outside and unhealthy on the inside. This is where the clean diet comes in, theres a lot more to it than just loosing and gaining weight.

As well as this, getting into the habit of eating well makes it a whole lot easier in the long run, and IMO, most people who can't get their diet right will never make progress.

 

[Snax]

There is some truth in what you say.

Loosing and gaining weight isnt about WHAT you eat, its about HOW MUCH you eat. Too much of any food will change your weight. Eating mcdonalds every day will not make you put on fat, as long as your keeping calories right.

How ever, its not exactly healthy... I would rather be fat, but healthy on the inside, than fit on the outside and unhealthy on the inside. This is where the clean diet comes in, theres a lot more to it than just loosing and gaining weight.

As well as this, getting into the habit of eating well makes it a whole lot easier in the long run, and IMO, most people who can't get their diet right will never make progress.

My point is merely about mentality. Of course it is not sensible to eat takeaways and mcdonalds 24/7 and very few people actually do this.

However, I am convinced that if you are rigid on the exercise front, the junk food disappears naturally. If you are overweight and forcing yourself to run 15km a day, eating a takeaway everynight will naturally disappear as the stresses of running force the body to shed pounds.

There are some people who really want to feel the virtues of healthy living, but the OP didnt really say that. His priority was to lose weight and start getting laid. To do that you dont need to have a healthy lifestyle (where does alcohol fit in with healthy?)

Does the OP want to go out with a curry with his friends and stick to a tandoori chicken, because that is the healthyu option? OR does he want to go and get stuck in with a few cobras because he is on a night out?

There are so many mental issues with food that need to be considered especially with wholesale lifestyle change and quite a few of them are potentially dangerous (although eating takeaways 24/7 is also dangerous I agree). I find it shortsighted and dangerous to encourage people to adopt radical and massive change as a first point of call.

Edit- I would also be interested to hear how long people have been on "clean living" lifestyles for. I suspect that most have been doing it for under 3 years and are under 30.

 

[[DOD]Asprilla]

Edit- I would also be interested to hear how long people have been on "clean living" lifestyles for. I suspect that most have been doing it for under 3 years and are under 30.

As has been said no-one is talking about living like a monk; I had fish and chips from the chippy and a couple of beers last night.

It's just about thinking about what you are eating, finding out what is in it and making some changes to diet; not suddenly moving to living on one lettuce leaf a day.

Taking an interest in how you fuel your body is worthwhile.

For reference, it's 5 years since I decided to live a healthier life after decades of abusing my body with poor diet, lack of exercise, drinking, smoking and drugs and I'm 34 years old.

Here's a shock for you; I still occasionally smoke cigars and I drink a lot of wine.

 

[Snax]

As has been said no-one is talking about living like a monk; I had fish and chips from the chippy and a couple of beers last night.

It's just about thinking about what you are eating, finding out what is in it and making some changes to diet; not suddenly moving to living on one lettuce leaf a day.

Taking an interest in how you fuel your body is worthwhile.

For reference, it's 5 years since I decided to live a healthier life after decades of abusing my body with poor diet, lack of exercise, drinking, smoking and drugs and I'm 34 years old.

Here's a shock for you; I still occasionally smoke cigars and I drink a lot of wine.

That sounds like a pretty sensible approach to me. You do what you enjoy and dont limit yourself. You love wine and dont worry about the carbs or inhibitive nature of alcohol to muscle growth. I completely support that way of living; it is really positive in its method.

The suggestions in this thread have (for the most part) been suggesting going from takeaways to salad/vegetable and gilled meat diet which is pretty extreme and is also restrictive and a negative approach.

What I am trying to advocate is a positive mentality behind the approach. Dont look at limiting things, look at adding things to your lifestyle.

Rather than saying "i cant/shouldnt eat this", switch to "I will go running/to the gym/biking". I also believe that a healthier diet develops naturally after you start exercising, rather than from self control.

 

["andy"]

if you own a bike then i assume you enjoy or once enjoyed it ?

get on your bike and put some music/radio/podcasts you like on and just ride about for for a long as you can whenever you can

little things like that will make a HUGE difference compared to siting at home not even moving. i wouldnt recommend running mainly because i hate it but also because at 18st it wont be very comfortable (which is probably why i hated it)

 

[craptakular]

I really appreciate all your comments and support, and tbh I'm suprised I haven't been told any fat jokes lol.

When I was 19/20 I lost around 5 stone, I went up the gym 4 times a week, but I hated the gym, but it worked, for a time. When I got to a loose 32" jean I stopped the gym, got an office job after uni with an hours communite and over 3-4 years I'm upto 17-18 stone :/

I bought a road bike last year and lost a stone, but stopped over winter, then put the stone back on.

I also have a kayak and am going to sign up to the kayak club in a couple of weeks as thats one nights exercise and I meet new people that I wouldn't meet otherwise.

As for diet I was thinking fit may be better learning to cook myself this time round, I have all the time in the world at the mo. I'm thinking that by understanding how and what to cook I can cook make myself a healthier burger if I get a craving, etc etc.

Anyway this morning I had some poirridge, I found a pack in the cupboard I didn't know was there :/ so I broke the cycle of bacon sandwich every morning. It was a pack of Quaker's mix, apple and blackberry, it was very nice. I did but some toast in the toaster but after the porridge I was full so put the toast ou for the birds.

Going on my bike instead of the car, I need to post a film back and I wanna see if carphone warehouse have a laptop in I'm looking at, so that should be 10 miles if I go the country way. Thats around 45-60 mins of exercise?

if you own a bike then i assume you enjoy or once enjoyed it ?

get on your bike and put some music/radio/podcasts you like on and just ride about for for a long as you can whenever you can

little things like that will make a HUGE difference compared to siting at home not even moving. i wouldnt recommend running mainly because i hate it but also because at 18st it wont be very comfortable (which is probably why i hated it)

I live on the doorstep of beautiful Suffolk countryside and The Broads, in the summer months I go on 10-40mile rides. The probably is no activity in winter months and a filty diet full of fat.

I'll be brutely honest here, I was going for late night snacks to McD's and getting a Big Mac, Chicken burger and a quarter punder as a snack. Sometimes I would get a McD's AND KFC. I am ashamed of this...

 

[ben90]

My point is merely about mentality. Of course it is not sensible to eat takeaways and mcdonalds 24/7 and very few people actually do this.

However, I am convinced that if you are rigid on the exercise front, the junk food disappears naturally. If you are overweight and forcing yourself to run 15km a day, eating a takeaway everynight will naturally disappear as the stresses of running force the body to shed pounds.

There are some people who really want to feel the virtues of healthy living, but the OP didnt really say that. His priority was to lose weight and start getting laid. To do that you dont need to have a healthy lifestyle (where does alcohol fit in with healthy?)

Does the OP want to go out with a curry with his friends and stick to a tandoori chicken, because that is the healthyu option? OR does he want to go and get stuck in with a few cobras because he is on a night out?

There are so many mental issues with food that need to be considered especially with wholesale lifestyle change and quite a few of them are potentially dangerous (although eating takeaways 24/7 is also dangerous I agree). I find it shortsighted and dangerous to encourage people to adopt radical and massive change as a first point of call.

Edit- I would also be interested to hear how long people have been on "clean living" lifestyles for. I suspect that most have been doing it for under 3 years and are under 30.

I see where your comming from, but really, running 15km (or even 5 a day) or preparing a few meals which take less than 15mins each? I know which I would rather do.

People see becoming healthy as a huge task that takes hours and hours of dedication, but actually it doesnt at all. 3 healthy meals a day with some snacks takes much less effort than running 5 miles a day, or even lifting weights for an hour and this is why diet should always come first.

Nail your diet and you will become healthier without doing any exercise at all.

 

[Skeptic]

I'll be brutely honest here, I was going for late night snacks to McD's and getting a Big Mac, Chicken burger and a quarter punder as a snack. Sometimes I would get a McD's AND KFC. I am ashamed of this...

Bloody hellfire; if you can eat this much *good* food, along with a weight programme, you could stack on some decent mass.

 

[craptakular]

Yeh I have a "good frame". lol. Just a big gut atm.

 

[Mad old tory]

Good on you for making the decision to do something about it. Make small changes here and there would be my advice. I've been putting on weight quite steadily since I hurt my knee in September and have been trying this and that to shift it. I've tried low carbs, going to the gym every other day doing HIIT etc etc.

I feel a bit foolish now that it's taken me this long to realise I've been trying to run before I can walk. Now I've realised it's a case of just making moderate changes, cut some of the rubbish out and replace it with fruit, veg, nuts etc. I start my day well with porridge and it goes downhill from there lol. Then I'll just go to the gym a few times a week and start doing 20-30 mins on the bike each time and build from there. Obviously my situation is a bit more complicated because my knees are still troublesome so I can't run which is a tad upsetting but I'll get there.

Good luck and keep us updated with your progress!

 

[cheets64]

Do you drink alcohol, stop drinking for a month that will help you lose at least a stone, the only way to become slimmer is to eat basic lean foods and veg and fruit. The easiest way is to pick up something like a pack of crisp and then look at yourself and say do you need these empty calories.

I only have one takeaway a week now and I go for the healthiest option boiled rice instead of fried rice, chicken kebab instead of doner kebab.

 

[starfighter]

I don't exercise or eat healthily yet I am slim. If I did start getting fat I would rather do exercise than change my diet.

But I suppose it depends, if you are going to the takeaway every night and eating no fruit or veg then perhaps a slight change is needed also.

 

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Do you drink alcohol, stop drinking for a month that will help you lose at least a stone, the only way to become slimmer is to eat basic lean foods and veg and fruit. The easiest way is to pick up something like a pack of crisp and then look at yourself and say do you need these empty calories.

I only have one takeaway a week now and I go for the healthiest option boiled rice instead of fried rice, chicken kebab instead of doner kebab.

Cutting out things totally is a stupid idea and you won't be able to keep it up. Drink in moderation rather than heavily binging followed by takeaways.

Porridge is a great start with some honey and cinamon. Plus it fills you up for the early morning. Also learn to snack well possibly with mixed nuts/some raisins for sweetness contrast for example. Just try some different things and you will find something you can quite happily enjoy which is still healthy.

Enjoy the treat currys/takeaways too, always good to have a healthy mind as well as a healthy body

 

[Raymond Lin]

Cutting out things totally is a stupid idea and you won't be able to keep it up. Drink in moderation rather than heavily binging followed by takeaways.

Porridge is a great start with some honey and cinamon. Plus it fills you up for the early morning. Also learn to snack well possibly with mixed nuts/some raisins for sweetness contrast for example. Just try some different things and you will find something you can quite happily enjoy which is still healthy.

Enjoy the treat currys/takeaways too, always good to have a healthy mind as well as a healthy body

I agree, don't cut out things you love totally.

For me, I love chocolate and coffee, I just vary it. For chocolate I do eat a LOT less, and when i do, i get dark chocolate. Coffee, i use sweeteners instead of sugar and I make americano instead of latte.

I am lucky however i am not a great fans for cakes and desserts, nor am I am hooked on takeaways so I can and have gone pretty much the last 6 months on porridge/cereal - salad/sushi - soup + meat as my 3 meals in the day. Sounds really dull but I do vary the salads, the cereals and now and again i have steak and some home cooking from my mum once a week.

It works for me, this morning, for the first time since I was 15 or something I am under 12st, I am officially 11st something (13Ibs).

The reward?

Clothes look a LOT better on me, pretty much anything I put on looks 10 times better than i was when i was fat.

p.s. I am wearing 31inch jeans right now.