ok. consider the matter dropped.
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Just ordered a gtx470
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ok. consider the matter dropped.
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Can't tell, I dont have an 8800 around to test with anymore
Either way, AA off, the 2900XT is definately faster than it used to be, which is why its trucking on fine in a family PC, as most of the people using it are more casual gamers so dont require heavy AA doses, and its more than capable for most stuff with the AA off.
Shame really, if TSMC hadn't botched it and forced it out on a higher nm than intended, with lower clocks, it probably would have been quite a nice card.
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The issue is that they're faster in some, slower than others.
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...and for others there house burning down also comes into consideration.
To be fair this does seem to be the case, if you are gonna get a 470 @ its current price you have to agree the 5870 is cheaper, atm by a few quid, and faster overall...
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One minor fix, the 5850 will overclock past the speed the 480 can achieve, on the stock cooler quieter than a stock 470gtx, and neither the 470/480gtx will likely get close with overclocking.
1Ghz is achievable but seemingly rare and not with silence on a stock cooled 5850. 925 is very easy, thats over a 25% overclock, hit 975and you're at about 35% overclock, the few that can hit 1Ghz, will have a 40% overclock.
The few overclocking tests I've seen suggest maybe a 10% overclock, eek that out to 15% with voltage control IF there is voltage control, it won't come close.
Thats the big problem, the 5850 has HUGE headroom, I mean huge, and anything this generation but a 5850 is a daft buy, be that 5870, 5970(at current prices, at £430rrp its still a choice but frankly 2x 5850's would overclock better and be easier to cool), 470gtx, 480gtx, or a likely 460gtx.
The 5850 is the single most obvious choice between gpu's in the high end market, in the past decade frankly.
After the 4870 was released, the 260gtx 216 version came out and it was priced not far off a 4870, either would give you great performance at competitive prices, you'd not be dissappointed with either.
THis gen, theres nothing close in price/performance to the 5850 and unlike last gen, the 5850 can produce top end performance, where the 4850 could not replicate 4870 performance under any circumstances.
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Although I think kylew trolling (kind of), I do agree with him on this. The 470 is just a non-starter compared to a 5850, a complete waste of time. If I was limited on budget then no question my choice would be a 5850 and overclock the nuts off it.
If NV is your weapon of choice, bite the bullet and get a 480.
If NV is your weapon of choice, bite the bullet and get a 480.
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That's 'cos they were buggered!
I had a BFG 280 do that, got RMA'd very quickly and the Asus never went above 90 (in furmark).
I'm not really trolling, it's banter to me, some people take it too seriously.
One thing though is that I really can't understand why some one would spend £100 more just to get the brand that they prefer.
I mean, as much as I dislike nVidia, I know I'd be all over their cards if they were in ATi's position.
To me, the 5850 sets the bench mark for a level of performance compared to price.
Anything above that price for no more performance means to me, the card is pointless.
As it is, I think the 5870 and 5850 are quite overpriced already, but there's nothing that gives 5850 performance for the same price, so yeah, if ATi were £100+ more money for the same performance, I'd be all over an nVidia card.
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