Should Wetherspoon clean the highstreet up?

Jonny69

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Every weekend after a Friday and Saturday night the highstreet outside and around Wetherspoon is left littered with cigarette ends because they push their drunken smoking scum customers out on the road to smoke. It's really unpleasant to walk through and smells disgusting, plus if I have the misfortune to have to walk through of an evening I've got to weave my way through drunk shaved-head yobs out on the street.

I think it makes the highstreet a really unpleasant place to be, all weekend. Shouldn't Wetherspoon have to clean this mess up instead of leaving it to the council to do on a Monday morning?
 
I know Weatherspoons like to maintain an image that they are involved in the community so if you write to their head office you might get some feedback.

It annoys me whenever I see someone flick or stamp out a cigarette butt on the floor, especailly considering so many bins have ash trays on top for this exact reason.

There seems to be more stigma about littering than there does about butting (oh yeah, I'm giving it a name) but in my eyes they are the exact same thing!
 
If you're going to make Wetherspoons do it then you'd have to make every pub do it. I'm not sure that it is a totally realistic option but if you were to make it a condition for every pub (what sort of penalties are applicable for failure to do so?) then it's not so fundamentally unfair.
 
Does the Weatherspoons in question have cigarette bins/litter bins outside?

If not then they should be responsible for clearing up the mess. If yes then they have provided the smokers with a means of acceptably disposing of their cigarette ends and cannot be held responsible for the inability of their customers to use them.

Alternatively, it's the Government's fault for curtailing the human rights of smokers :D
 
semi-pro waster said:
If you're going to make Wetherspoons do it then you'd have to make every pub do it. I'm not sure that it is a totally realistic option but if you were to make it a condition for every pub (what sort of penalties are applicable for failure to do so?) then it's not so fundamentally unfair.
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It's left nowhere near as disgusting outside any of the other pubs. It's the lower class scum customers that the Wetherspoon attracts, no doubt about it, but that's no reason to let them foul the road and make it horrible for everyone else.
 
lol point made, calm down, you should write to them, your local, if its really important.

Where i live the entire street is 4 "chain pubs" in a row with a Yates on the end. The other side of the road is fast food joints.

Its the most Dangerous 200m Stretch of road at closing time.
 
I was having this discussion with my manager the other day as we were marked down by a mystery customer as the front of the pub was dirty. The front of the pub is a on a main road in the towns high street and i can't see how we can be responsible for where people drop there rubbish.
 
Dreadi said:
I was having this discussion with my manager the other day as we were marked down by a mystery customer as the front of the pub was dirty. The front of the pub is a on a main road in the towns high street and i can't see how we can be responsible for where people drop there rubbish.
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Doesn't stop Maccie D's having 'malcom' running around outside clearing up the rubbish dropped by their customers. :)
 
Dreadi said:
I was having this discussion with my manager the other day as we were marked down by a mystery customer as the front of the pub was dirty. The front of the pub is a on a main road in the towns high street and i can't see how we can be responsible for where people drop there rubbish.
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It dosnt matter who is responsible. If the front of the pub is a mess its going to impact on the customers perception of the place. It takes two minutes to brush a small bit of pavement if needs be.
 
Parsley said:
Aren't you a delightful soul :D.
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Well they are. I can go into most pubs and there are a few drunks about but if I go into Wetherspoon I'm confronted by red-eyed skinheads in trainers, swaying around, slurring and looking for a fight. Really the sort that I want to mix with? No.
 
Jonny69 said:
Well they are. I can go into most pubs and there are a few drunks about but if I go into Wetherspoon I'm confronted by red-eyed skinheads in trainers, swaying around, slurring and looking for a fight. Really the sort that I want to mix with? No.
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I've never seen anything like that in the Wetherspoons near here? Fair enough it isn't great, but for a couple of drinks on a night out, it isn't too bad a place either.
 
dymetrie said:
Does the Weatherspoons in question have cigarette bins/litter bins outside?

If not then they should be responsible for clearing up the mess. If yes then they have provided the smokers with a means of acceptably disposing of their cigarette ends and cannot be held responsible for the inability of their customers to use them.

Alternatively, it's the Government's fault for curtailing the human rights of smokers :D
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This.
 
On the retail/business park I work at Macdonalds pay someone to scour the site clearing up last nights big mac wrappers etc every morning. Leaves all the other rubbish of course but at least the vast majority of it gets cleaned up this way
 
D1ngd0ng said:
On the retail/business park I work at Macdonalds pay someone to scour the site clearing up last nights big mac wrappers etc every morning. Leaves all the other rubbish of course but at least the vast majority of it gets cleaned up this way
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The attitude is of the British public (namely chavs) throwing Macdonalds wrappers on the floor, rather than the Macdonalds themselves not giving a ****. There are bins all over the carparks and yet people who don't care throw it on the floor.
 
Jonny69 said:
Well they are. I can go into most pubs and there are a few drunks about but if I go into Wetherspoon I'm confronted by red-eyed skinheads in trainers, swaying around, slurring and looking for a fight. Really the sort that I want to mix with? No.
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Don't really see this even in my town, of all places.

Sounds like you live in a scummy area in general.
 
Jonny69 said:
It's the lower class scum customers that the Wetherspoon attracts, no doubt about it, but that's no reason to let them foul the road and make it horrible for everyone else.
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Ever thought that it might be because of the prices?

Perhaps being upper class (almost god like) you should drink somewhere else, perhaps the Maldives would be a nice place to start. Just take the private Jet every evening, Im sure that no one will mind.
 
I don't drink there, can't stand the place. Beckenham has plenty of other much nicer pubs, bars and restaurants where I'm less likely to get started on.

Or, to stoop to your level, where I'm less likely to be offended by their local state-educated behaviour.
 
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