Poll: New poll on who you will vote for?

Who?

  • Labour

    Votes: 76 10.0%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 286 37.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 324 42.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 75 9.9%
  • Total voters
    761
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That £1 might not be a tip at all. Although very odd indeed, it may be their way of dealing with the VAT rules (in some cases, I believe the VAT rate is higher if you eat in than if you don't).

Even so, unless it was a fast food joint, then £1 is nothing. In one place I tipped $20 on a $60 bill, though I'll admit that with that one I over-tipped because the service was exceptionally good. $5-$10 tips were very normal and even on short taxi journeys tips of $2-$3 were the norm.

PS - I'd love to live out there, but not on the breadline for sure.


As for the voting system, yes, absolutely. It's crazy that a party can get an overall majority with only mid-30s percent of the national vote. That said, I don't believe in straight-out PR because it would just lead to incessant hung parliaments - which favour parties with even smaller minorities.
 
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Berserker said:
.....I over-tipped because the service was exceptionally good. $5-$10 tips were very normal and even on short taxi journeys tips of $2-$3 were the norm.
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But why is this 'tipping for service' thing only existant in restaurants?

How come people in other services such as retail work, store assistants, or cashiers never get tipped if they provide good service?

Youre not even allowed to accept tips in most other retail services, so I have never understood why I should pay extra for good service. If I go to a restaurant and I dont get good service without tipping, then I take my money elsewhere.
 
bhavv said:
But why is this 'tipping for service' thing only existant in restaurants?

How come people in other services such as retail work, store assistants, or cashiers never get tipped if they provide good service?

Youre not even allowed to accept tips in most other retail services, so I have never understood why I should pay extra for good service. If I go to a restaurant and I dont get good service without tipping, then I take my money elsewhere.
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That's why I hate the tipping culture. Although in America, you tip almost ****** everyone. It gets beyond a joke. From housekeeping in hotels, to Starbucks tip jars, to the concierge when you ask him for directions. It's bizarre. And non-natives don't do it well :D

In the UK, I avoid tipping everywhere I can for average service. That's what I pay the bill for. If you're a hot waitress and turn up topless, you'll get more money.
 
bhavv said:
Yes I hate tips, but I have come across a few restaurants in Britain that charge you an extra quid if you want to eat in, which isnt too much but its still like a tip. The first time it happened I literally took it as a complete joke and refused to pay. They didnt like it one bit and even threatened to call the cops and wouldnt leave me alone until I paid the extra eating in fee, so now I only go to the main restaurants - KFC, Macdonalds or Subways etc, and refuse to go to any place that isnt a big name.
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Was that Eat or Pret? I was shocked at that too.

Looking at the poll looks like the people that voted Labour has mostly switched to Lib-Dem, tories pretty much the same as the last poll

It would be a dream to see the Tories in power and Lib-dems as the main opposition. Imagine all the stuff we could get done and all the authoritarian laws that will be replied. That was be an amazing thing to see :cool:
 
Berserker said:
That £1 might not be a tip at all. Although very odd indeed, it may be their way of dealing with the VAT rules (in some cases, I believe the VAT rate is higher if you eat in than if you don't).
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This is exactly what it is - eat-in food is subject to VAT whereas takeaway food is not. Most organisations simply absorb this cost, others (Subway is another) often pass it onto the customer.
 
I know that this is a little off the main topic, but would people support the idea of enforced voting of some kind. Enforced is a little strong a word, but maybe on election years a £200 decrease in your personal allowance if you chose not to attend the polls.

Lack of turnout is shocking imo, considering what a lot of people had to go through to secure a right to vote it is pathetic. You do have the option of abstaining on the polling card if I remember correctly. Not only that, but postal voting is also available so there are really few excuses not to vote.

Any opinions on this?
 
robgmun said:
Looking at the poll looks like the people that voted Labour has mostly switched to Lib-Dem
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Which shows that most people are fickle, and in the main clueless.

How can you go from Labour (big state, higher taxes, reduced civil liberties) to a free-market libertarian party, just by watching one guy's television performance?
 
[TW]Fox;16389702 said:
This is exactly what it is - eat-in food is subject to VAT whereas takeaway food is not. Most organisations simply absorb this cost, others (Subway is another) often pass it onto the customer.
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This only applies to cold food, hence you only see it in places like Subway, Pret, Eat etc.

Hot takeaway food is always standard rated. Cold food to eat in ('supplied in the course of catering') is standard rated. Cold takeaway food is zero rated.
 
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Which shows that most people are fickle, and in the main clueless.

How can you go from Labour (big state, higher taxes, reduced civil liberties) to a free-market libertarian party, just by watching one guy's television performance?
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Well, in fairness the former SDP part of the Lib dems is quite strong in their economic policies, they would probably be doing even better if they lent more to the liberal side.

Myself, still voting tories, the lib dems have a few vote killers for me, and have very little chance of getting out the encumbant MP. The tories don't have that great a chance, it's a safe labour seat, but they have a better chance than normal.

I do wonder, given the Lib Dems' desire to match the wishes of the people, how they could possibly consider forming a coalition with Labour if their popular support has dwindled so much as well... Especially given the policy chasms between the two parties.
 
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As long as labour are utterly humiliated I don't care too much, tactically voting conservative makes the most sense to ensure this and they are also my preference. However, lib Dem is votable if I needed to for tactical reasons. However, some of their policies I don't like at all (nuclear for starters)
 
This country is going to do the dogs. I can't think of one good point to say about it.

Suffice to say I'm looking to emigrate to New Zealand/Canada in the next few years.

Going to vote lib dem I think as they seem to have the best idea's, probably won't get elected though.
 
i think that's what most people should go for, vote for which party that will most likely out the Labour party in you area
 
Oxy said:
Do you reallly want a torie government though? I see it has cutting my nose off to spite my face.
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Anyone is better than Labour.

If lib dem cannot win I would prefer labour again.
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Why, the policy gap is not that different, just in a different direction, and I'd much rather have a successful economy under the tories than reduced civil liberties under labour... I suppose it does depend whether the preference for the liberal democrats comes from liberalism or economic 'fairness' that will be highly unlikely to produce the results they want.
 
Dolph said:
Anyone is better than Labour.



Why, the policy gap is not that different, just in a different direction, and I'd much rather have a successful economy under the tories than reduced civil liberties under labour... I suppose it does depend whether the preference for the liberal democrats comes from liberalism or economic 'fairness' that will be highly unlikely to produce the results they want.
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Why do you think the tories would encourage a successful economy?

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I'm Tory biased so yes i'd love a Troy government,
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Why?
 
Tory for me, they're the only ones looking likely to replace labour in this area so they're getting my vote plus my local labour mp was awful last term so bye bye labour.
 
It would seem that these TV debates are having a profound effect on peoples opinions and voting habits.

For all purposes its looking like a hung parliment as Cameron continues to attack the other parties instead of promoting his policies.

Doesnt Gordon Brown remain PM if it is a hung parliment?
 
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