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GTX 480/ HD 5870

DarkWhisper

DarkWhisper

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I know I know this has been done some many times.
But if a HD5870 give these results..
Then why o why do people go out and buy the expensive over heating power sucking paper weight..
 
Its becasue its all comes down to personal choice. Some people prefer nvidia over ati due to prices or issues they had years ago.

The 480 gtx is a good card, and the drivers will mature making the card even better. However, I do prefer ati cards, and ati do offer better cards for the price for example: Ati 5850, £230, overclockers to 5870 speeds, near enough equal to the gtx 480.

Like I said, it comes down to personal opinions, but some people have more money then sense.
 
I used to buy nvidia because there drivers was better. went from 8800 gts sli , then 8800 ultra. then went to 4870x2-- ati 4890 and then 5870. loved the 5870 so much when and bought another one a few weeks later.
and the reason i went for ati is.
I though i got more for my money. and come on ati's look way better thern nvidia
 
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DarkWhisper said:
I know I know this has been done some many times.
But if a HD5870 give these results..
Then why o why do people go out and buy the expensive over heating power sucking paper weight..
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Also not everyone buys graphics cards just to play games. If you're into CUDA based applications then Nvidia is the road to go.
 
phill1978 said:
and some people would buy a bmw over a renault even if the renault was better
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The problem with that example is that there's a very very clear difference between the two.

When driving either one, you'll know the difference, they look different, one may be more aesthetically pleasing.

However, when it comes to playing games, if you didn't know what was in the PC, and you'd just sat down to a game that's already loaded up, and played, you wouldn't have a clue if it contained a GTX480 or an overclocked 5870.
 
deuse said:
He makes a post and says "expensive over heating power sucking paper weight"
then tops that by saying "What's Cuda" lmao :D
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What it shows is that he's a gamer who's solely interested in using his graphics card for gaming.

You gonna laugh at some one who doesn't know what SSE instructions their CPU is capable of accelerating?
 
straxusii said:
Because it's the fastest single GPU card?
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Come on! Not this again.

I could start selling my own brand HD5870s, where I flash 5870 bioses to 1000/1300 clocks with appropriate voltages.

That would be the fastest single GPU card, no?
 
kylew said:
Come on! Not this again.

I could start selling my own brand HD5870s, where I flash 5870 bioses to 1000/1300 clocks with appropriate voltages.

That would be the fastest single GPU card, no?
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Well no actually it wouldn't, an overclocked 5870 still doesn't beat the 480 @ stock in the majority of games, you might want to go and do some research on this, but I'm fairly confident the results are right there for everybody to see.

Go and have a quick look at the 480 end users thread, I think there's some fairly conclusive evidence right there.

You also conveniently fail to mention the 480s clock pretty well themselves, giving some very good results.

Please Kyle, for the sake of my sanity, try and keep your fanboyism in check, I really don't want to put you on ignore because occasionally you do have something of worth to say,

but your constant digs and slating of Nvidia in every related thread is getting somewhat tedious and very monotonous.
 
coupe69 said:
Well no actually it wouldn't, an overclocked 5870 still doesn't beat the 480 @ stock in the majority of games, you might want to go and do some research on this, but I'm fairly confident the results are right there for everybody to see.

Go and have a quick look at the 480 end users thread, I think there's some fairly conclusive evidence right there.

You also conveniently fail to mention the 480s clock pretty well themselves, giving some very good results.

Please Kyle, for the sake of my sanity, try and keep your fanboyism in check, I really don't want to put you on ignore because occasionally you do have something of worth to say,

but your constant digs and slating of Nvidia in every related thread is getting somewhat tedious and very monotonous.
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All you've done is highlight how flawed "fastest GPU" actually is.

So, why do all the reviews show a 5870 and GTX480 matching eachother very well at stock? Just because there are some games where the 480 still does better, doesn't mean anything. According to that logic, the 5870 is better than the 5970, because there'll be a few games, where crossfire doesn't work, which would give the 5870 an advantage.

There are games where the 5870 at stock, beats the GTX480 at stock, really, to bang on about fastest GPU is nonsense, it means very little.

Is it not fanboyism when you can't hear them be criticised?

You have a GTX480, you surely can't claim that you're not at all biased, at all can you?

I don't just slate and make digs at nVidia, and if I do it's due to something relevant.

To me, I simply can't understand why ANYONE would buy a GTX480. They're bad because they're bad, not because they're nVidia.

I think the 5870s are bad as well, does that mean I'm now an nVidia fanboy because I'm being critical of it?

I slate the 5870 a lot and say it's very over priced for what it is, because it just is, nothing to do with its brand at all.

I don't understand why anyone would buy a GTX470, 480 or a 5870 when you can overclock a 5850 and get the same performance.
 
I have both a 480 and a 5850 (well it's in the 5xxxx range...). i made a simple choice to move back to nvidia because ATI cards have no support whatsoever in the CAD world (i.e. CUDA, CAD viewport performance etc.). and there are a slew of nvidia-only GPU-accelerated renderers hitting the market these days.

got nothing to do with gaming or speed. it's all about functionality and stability/accuracy.

there are a great deal of people in this market not interested in games :)
 
kylew said:
So, why do all the reviews show a 5870 and GTX480 matching eachother very well at stock?
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I thought it's pretty much common knowledge that 5870 frame rate take deep dive (well, deeper than GTX480 at least) when with 4xAA or more applied.
For example, I've seen Battlefield Bad Company 2 dx11 results...although at 1920x1200, 0xAA, 16xAF, both cards deliver similar frame rate with 5870 at min 52fps, average 74fps and GTX480 at min 56fps, average 75fps...when 4xAA is applied, 5870's frame rate drops by min 20fps, average 16fps whereas GTX480's frame rate only drops by min 12fps, average 9fps, with 5870 at min 32fps, average 58fps and GTX480 at min 44fps, average 66fps
 
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I'm not trolling or interested in a flame war but I wouldn't spend over £200 on a card if that is all they can do. Wasn't impressed by the YouTube footage at all.

Both looked identical and for now I'll stick to my 20" Dell and 8800gts, there's too much over-inflated hype around these products.
 
mothermachine said:
I have both a 480 and a 5850 (well it's in the 5xxxx range...). i made a simple choice to move back to nvidia because ATI cards have no support whatsoever in the CAD world (i.e. CUDA, CAD viewport performance etc.). and there are a slew of nvidia-only GPU-accelerated renderers hitting the market these days.

got nothing to do with gaming or speed. it's all about functionality and stability/accuracy.

there are a great deal of people in this market not interested in games :)
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I'm not quite sure the no support whatsoever is particularly accurate, I've used most major "CAD" and 3D applications and they've all worked fine running on my ATi cards.

GPU accelerated rendering apps (via CUDA) is a different matter however, luckily though those companies are working on openCL compatibility.
 
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