***Official Wrath of the Lich King Thread***(Contains spoilers)***

[Gamer_T]

I feel a sudden need to start playing this again, need to get a new computer first though.

Not played properly since TBC, and not raided since the end of Vanilla, I'm guessing a lot has changed since then.

Used to play a mage and a druid but tempted to roll something different this time around, maybe a priest.

I'm guessing it could be a lot faster to level with this new cross server LFG system?

Possibly going to wait until this new expansion, looks quite exciting, more so than the last two I think.

Yeah since getting my new build I'm enjoying it even more now! Although to be fair WoW doesn't need anything meaty to get it running well.

A lot has indeed changed. I've only been quit about 12 months and once again it feels like I've come back to a different game - For the good.

I have an 80 mage, but before I quit I DE'd his gear and sold the shards so I could fund my death knight lol. Big mistake as now he's got no gear and I can't be bothered to farm any!

The new LFG system is awesome, although my mate who is only about level 20 says it takes ages to get a group. From my experience at level 80 the wait time is about 8-12 mins.

 

[Jokester]

New for Cataclysm:-

* 10-Man and 25-Man raids will share the same lockout.
* 10-Man and 25-Man raids difficulty will be as close as possible to each other.
* 10-Man and 25-Man raids will drop the exact same loot, but 25-man will drop a higher quantity of items.
* Normal versus Heroic mode will be chosen on a per-boss basis in Cataclysm raids, the same way it works in Icecrown Citadel
* For the first few raid tiers, our plan is to provide multiple smaller raids. Instead of one raid with eleven bosses, you might have a five-boss raid as well as a six-boss raid.

Noooooooooo

Going to kill off 25man raids.

 

[dmcg]

wow terrible ideas and splits the players in half with 10/25 raiders , they really seem hellbent on ruining the game just to appeal to "casuals" (yes I know there are good casual players)

 

[Puppetmaster]

The game is rapidly going down hill now. I wasnt a fan of all the stat changes (i prefered sim'ing stuff using spreadsheets etc to work out maximum dps) but would still buy the expansion. Now im not so sure. Seems they are trying to kill off raiding and i suspect their player base will be largely made up of people who play for 2 months then quit / take a break until next raid instance or 2.

 

[No1newts]

New for Cataclysm:-


Noooooooooo

Going to kill off 25man raids.

Wow thats one poor change, and this is coming from an extremely casual (at least these days I am) player.

There will be no-one raiding 25 mans anymore. Its a pretty well known fact that even in a well run guild a guild 10man will run a lot smoother than a guild 25man. There are always one or two who slack and accountability is a lot higher in a 10man.

If they are the same difficulty, same lockout and same loot, lets face it more dropping on 25man doesnt matter as there are less players in 10 so less loot doesnt matter, what will be the point in putting in all the extra effort to run a 25man raid? As far as I can see there will be very few guilds who will now bother with 25man content.

Was getting quite excited about Cata and pretty much everything I have heard about it so far has been positive and whilst the change wont effect me personally I see it as a very negative move by blizzard.

And more smaller raids? Personally I have found WotLK the poorest of the 3 WoW incarnations (vanilla, TBC and WotLK) I find the lore is pretty average, the whole there always must be a LK was just jazz. The dungeons are uninspiring and the raids are disjointed or poor. Naxx, poor. OS, poor. EoE, poor. Uld, good but where does this fit in with the LK? ToTC, **** poor. ICC, decent enough, best effort so far but I just cant get into it.

Contrast the above with TBC where the raids (discounting Kara which was epic in itself) were one big storyline. Maggy >>> SSC >>> TK >>> MH >>> BT it just seemed to flow soooo well with a great story arc continuing throughout. They were all fantastically designed, with the music being great fits too especially BT, and they were just so atmospheric and fun (and challenging but thats a whole different kettle of fish)

Now have visions of Cata having loads of **** poor OS/TotC style raids where you just nip in for 20mins kill the embarassingly easy bosses for your shinies and out you go again. Really getting me tempted to join an old WoW friend of mines twink guild who do 60 and 70 raids. Might keep my lock at 60 and level something else to 70 because at least I can enjoy them raids.

But meh what do I know Blizz always ignores its subscribers anyway so I will just keep playing the parts I enjoy (levelling and lore)

 

[Viper²]

But meh what do I know Blizz always ignores its subscribers anyway so I will just keep playing the parts I enjoy (levelling and lore)

And not everyone cares about Lore and wants to level all the time.

 

[Xinn]

I don't play WoW any more but if those changes do happen in Cata it will either lose a fair chunk of the player base or people won't play half as much as they currently do.

 

[Parmesan]

I've just started playing wow again about a month ago, got my warrior up to 80 and am now farming random HC's for embelems or gear, but finding it a nightmare to get anything decent.

It's all about the gear score at the minute.... Does my head in Unless you have a high gs, you wont get in any raids, but to get to that decent gear score I could do with raiding!

And seriously considering changing spec from prot to arms or fury, cant cope with being tank

 

[utajoker]

I've just started playing wow again about a month ago, got my warrior up to 80 and am now farming random HC's for embelems or gear, but finding it a nightmare to get anything decent.

It's all about the gear score at the minute.... Does my head in Unless you have a high gs, you wont get in any raids, but to get to that decent gear score I could do with raiding!

And seriously considering changing spec from prot to arms or fury, cant cope with being tank

just getting the badge set should get you 4800ish gear score

 

[No1newts]

And not everyone cares about Lore and wants to level all the time.

What a way to cut down a constructive post supporting all types of players in WoW into a mean little comment that you can snap off at someone, really im impressed

 

[Gamer_T]

I've just started playing wow again about a month ago, got my warrior up to 80 and am now farming random HC's for embelems or gear, but finding it a nightmare to get anything decent.

It's all about the gear score at the minute.... Does my head in Unless you have a high gs, you wont get in any raids, but to get to that decent gear score I could do with raiding!

And seriously considering changing spec from prot to arms or fury, cant cope with being tank

Yeah hearing about GS all the time is annoying. I've managed to get everything I need with badges now and my gear score is only sitting at about 4.5K.

Should be getting a few boosts through ToC soon so I should pick up some better gear!

 

[Viper²]

What a way to cut down a constructive post supporting all types of players in WoW into a mean little comment that you can snap off at someone, really im impressed

QQ?

 

[James J]

I don't play WoW any more but if those changes do happen in Cata it will either lose a fair chunk of the player base or people won't play half as much as they currently do.

I thought that about tbc but the player base increases every time they release an expansion lol. I like the sound of a lot of the "going back to basics" ideas in catalysm and if they are giving the same loot in 10/25 man raids, it means far less time on designing the kit and more time designing newer raids. It'll probably be a good thing.

 

[Xinn]

I thought that about tbc but the player base increases every time they release an expansion lol. I like the sound of a lot of the "going back to basics" ideas in catalysm and if they are giving the same loot in 10/25 man raids, it means far less time on designing the kit and more time designing newer raids. It'll probably be a good thing.

I can see people playing less though as a result of the shared lockout. People will play other stuff or do real life and end up quitting completely. That's what happened in my case at least.

 

[No1newts]

QQ?

Keep going You really fit in well with the WoW community at large.



On topic;

I thought that about tbc but the player base increases every time they release an expansion lol. I like the sound of a lot of the "going back to basics" ideas in catalysm and if they are giving the same loot in 10/25 man raids, it means far less time on designing the kit and more time designing newer raids. It'll probably be a good thing.

This is hopefully something that will happen, something positive will come of the changes but since Activison has become involved I keep feeling that most changes seem to be directed toward making more money at less effort. Sharing lockouts suggests to me, or at least I hope, that there will be some other form of playstyle will be introduced into the game because not everyone likes having a hundred alts and most will end up walking away as they will quickly run out of things to do by the first few days of a lockout period.

 

[MikGriff]

There's a whole lot of "the end is nigh" here recently.

 

[Fenris]

There's a whole lot of "the end is nigh" here recently.

Cataclysm n.

A violent upheaval that causes great destruction or brings about a fundamental change.

So yeah.



My guild finally got LK25 down on Thursday last week, moving on to HM's tomorrow, can't wait


Also gotta love the the 25/10 man changes, 25 man guilds will not only get no benefit from running 25 mans over 10 mans (more loot is just proportionate, you may as well just run multiple 10 mans), they will also have nothing to do for most of the week once the current content is being cleared in 2 days and nothing new is on the horizon.

Phasing out of 25 man raids? Maybe, certainly looks that way.

Cata is looking less and less interesting as time goes on.

 

[dmcg]

I thought that about tbc but the player base increases every time they release an expansion lol. I like the sound of a lot of the "going back to basics" ideas in catalysm and if they are giving the same loot in 10/25 man raids, it means far less time on designing the kit and more time designing newer raids. It'll probably be a good thing.

no wow subs have never increased since the release of wotlk , tbc was the expansion that made the sub count rise to 11 mil

Also gotta love the the 25/10 man changes, 25 man guilds will not only get no benefit from running 25 mans over 10 mans (more loot is just proportionate, you may as well just run multiple 10 mans), they will also have nothing to do for most of the week once the current content is being cleared in 2 days and nothing new is on the horizon.

Phasing out of 25 man raids? Maybe, certainly looks that way.

thats not exactly a good thing

 

[Fenris]

thats not exactly a good thing

I was being sarcastic, of course it's not a good thing, being a 25man raider myself it feels like Blizzard is giving me the finger.

 

[KNiVES]

Did you guys miss the bit where it says it's more efficient to do 25 mans, in terms of loot and points? Honestly it's like the game is closing down for some of you. Oh no everyone will quit now that 40 mans have gone (TBC). Oh no everyone will quit now that 10 mans are alongside 25 mans (WOTLK). Oh no everyone will quit now that 25 and 10 mans have equal parity on the same items (CC).

I bet you my left testicle WoW will continue to suck the souls of millions the world over.