Volvo Polestar C30 AWD 400+ Bhp

Janesy B said:
Why?
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It should have had more power, it should have been AWD.

All this talk about not needing all 4 wheels being driven is just cobblers to justify not making AWD specials anymore.

Without question the Polestar C30 is what the RS should have been.

BTW, I'm fully aware of the economic reasons as to why it isn't.
 
I think made the right choice of keeping the people who would buy an RS happy, whilst ignoring the sort that will never buy one/can't afford one and simply write it off because it isn't AWD.
 
Thats another way of doing 4 wheel drive. 0-60 in 5.1 seconds. Up to 160bhp in each corner with full torque vectoring an Evo can only dream of.

Hi-Pa in wheel electric motors developed by Protean Electric in Farnham. I was offered a job there to get the stuff into OEM cars but decided to go to Jaguar instead.

http://www.proteanelectric.com/live/ Theres a video on the site, cant direct link as its java.

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The trouble with in-wheel motors is that it's not an environment in which a motor is likely to survive any length of time, only one moving part but it ain't going to be moving after your mother curbs it for the 15th time.

They are also a complete disaster on the un-sprung mass front, they destroy handling and grip with their diabolical re-bound rates.

We will see electric cars more than internal combustion one day, but they won't have in-wheel motors.
 
BigglesPiP said:
The trouble with in-wheel motors is that it's not an environment in which a motor is likely to survive any length of time, only one moving part but it ain't going to be moving after your mother curbs it for the 15th time.

They are also a complete disaster on the un-sprung mass front, they destroy handling and grip with their diabolical re-bound rates.

We will see electric cars more than internal combustion one day, but they won't have in-wheel motors.
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Without displacing this thread much more.

The 18" variant is a 24lb unit that displaces typically around 22.5lbs of in wheel weight from car with 18" wheels. An EV wheel bearing is no different to any other wheel bearing.

Re-bound rates is something you do with a damper not a lump of metal.

One system they are looking at is a hybrid bolt on as such for transits so the rear wheels have the motors with a small battery in the cargo space, can make a massive gain on something like a post van for marginal impact on the load carrying. But then we only have to talk about performance stuff dont we....
 
EddScott said:
It should have had more power, it should have been AWD.
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Why should it? It's a great car as it is, and has been very well received by the motoring press and the public (the one's who have driven it) alike. It didn't need more power, it didn't need AWD, it's a great car as it stands.
 
peterattheboro said:
It's expensive enough with just FWD.

Adding an AWD system would ramp up the cost.
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That's not a reason though .... the STi is SUB £28k ...
The Evo starts at £30k

And both are from small makers, Ford have the economy of scale on their side especially since the car is based on the Focus.

Just because something is overpriced does not suddenly mean that it has to stay that way
 
Better is an open ended term

It would have been faster, but do people demand that performance ?

been as they all sold out very quickly, the answer is no, people didnt demand it, therefore it didnt "need" 4x4 as such.

All ford cares about is how it sells, as money speaks louder than any words posted by fanboys on the internet.
 
DreXeL said:
Why should it? It's a great car as it is, and has been very well received by the motoring press and the public (the one's who have driven it) alike. It didn't need more power, it didn't need AWD, it's a great car as it stands.
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It looks nice I grant you that but its a poor reflection of more traditional rally inspired cars of the past.

More of a gimmic than anything else.

I'll also point out now that I see no reason why I can't have an opinion even though I have never driven an RS. I drove an ST a couple of years ago and didn't like it all.
 
Ford do not have their own AWD system afaik and would have had to adapt the Focus to AWD and then develop an all new drivetrain and figure out how to get the Volvo lump to fit into the equation.

Subaru have their own AWD system, the car was designed to be AWD from the outset.
 
it wouldnt have been too hard

Volvo have the V70 XD which is 4x4 after all.

Theres no getting away from the fact it was done in a cost cutting exercise.
 
Ford DO have their own AWD system, used in the Edge and Fusion, and was used in Volvo cars too (I think it was the same system)
 
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