Is there actually much legislation that exclusively affects England? I'm thinking there probably isn't!
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Though i am a Labour supporter, not Brown, I agree with what you're saying. I was somewhat annoyed by some SNP MP bitching on the news that the Lib Dems talking to the Tory's was wrong as all the parties in the UK should have a say.
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So is there actually much legislation that exclusively affects Scotland?
That's exactly what happens.
The SNP do not vote on English only matters.
There are quite a few things that are English/Welsh (or Scottish) only, off the top of my head: Health, education, local government, tourism, police/fire but no doubt a few more.
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Coming from Westminster? Mmmm, nothing that I can think of. Can't think of any reserved matter which would only have implications for Scotland. The obvious one is the oil fields, but I understand they stretch into 'English' waters.
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Grow up. It should be a simple black and white affair. You either want to be in the Union or you don't - make your mind up! You seem to want to have your cake and eat it - cherry picking the best aspects of both. That's just greedy and unrealistic.
My understanding is that Education and Health would be examples of the legislation that affect England only (so probably more than I had initially thought). However, there could well be a lot more. That of course doesn't mean there shouldn't be Scottish MPs in Wesminster.
What about all the other Scottish MPs (SNP only have 6)? Do all Scottish MPs abstain, I didn't think that was the case.
Should there be English MP's in Scotland?
My personal view is that Scotland needs either to be completely and utterely seperate with its own complete government and no involvement in English politics at all, or completely integrated and governed from London. I'm not sure I really mind which, but the current situation rather smacks of having ones cake *and* eating it.
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[TW]Fox;16524149 said:
Exactly as I said 4 posts up.
Just as the same reason the North of England isn't a big fan of the torries Wales and Scotland don't favour then usually because torry policies tend to favour the more affluent UK citizens.
Anyone who wants a strong conservative government in power needs their head checked as it wont benefit the average working family of the UK that's for sure.
Anyone who wants a strong conservative government in power needs their head checked as it wont benefit the average working family of the UK that's for sure.
How exactly is it like that at all?
The SNP, the minority government in Scotland does not vote on English only matters - I'm unsure if the Lib Dems, Labour or Tory MPs do.
Scotland can only legislate on Scotland specific measures, which is why we have some things that you don't have down South and vice-versa.
I'm not sure how we're cherry-picking the best aspects.
Perhaps if the English people pushed to get a legislative body to legislate on English only matters specifically instead of just bitched about it like children on a computer forum something may happen.
If it matters, which it doesn't, I'm against any devolution of powers and I think we - the Union - should be governed as an entirety from Westminster.
Again, why isn't this in the main politics thread? I would not have seen it if it was in there! I'm trying to study but this thread brought me back!
Should we have a Labour government then? That's benefitted the average working family of the UK yes?
*facepalm"
Yep, that strong Labour government REALLY helped the average working family of the UK didn't they? What with the stealth tax's, 10p tax rate mess and fiscal drag
I think you will find my suggestion has nothing to do with having your cake and eating it. If you think it has then I'm not sure you understand how the two parliaments work. I've basically said that MPs should only be allowed to vote on legislation that affects their constituents no matter what party of the country they come from.[TW]Fox;16524149 said:
But England cant have its own parliament anyway, clearly if you want anything English or to even be English (as opposed to British) you are a racist bigot. It must be true because the Scottish priminister making decisions for our country said so
Grow up TBH. GB never said anything of the sort but you go on kidding yourself...
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