Tory Majority in the UK?

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Not got a problem with devolution. Hell, Scotland has its own bloody legal system so they might as well have their own Parliament to make up their own laws. Subsidiarity is a good thing imo when it's done efficiently and not down to too low a level. I would rather the Scottish MPs in particular would keep their noses out of Education, health and other policies in Westminster though, seen as they don't have any impact on Scottish affairs!
 
I'm in favour of the Union, but I do agree you should be fully in or fully out.

If something goes wrong in these Con/Lib negotiations and Lib run off to Labour and form a Lab/Lib/SNP/PC alliance, giving into the nationalist [ransom] demands of the SNP/PC then relations might start to deteriorate.
 
Completely agree.

They choose to govern England yet make a lot of their own decisions for their own countries, seems somewhat strange. It needs to decided to be run one way or another, devoloution for non or all.

Also find it strange (and annoying) how the majority of the tax pounds comes from England yet we fund completely free education and perscriptions in Scotland :confused:

Nothing against the Scottish people as I have a good few friends up there but its a strange system that could do with being sorted.

But England cant have its own parliament anyway, clearly if you want anything English or to even be English (as opposed to British) you are a racist bigot. It must be true because the Scottish priminister making decisions for our country said so :rolleyes:

The perscriptions are not free... yet! :P
 
Wonder how long Scotland would last if it was to part from the UK, my crystal ball tells me about 5 mins.
 
If Scotland became independant before the banks went pear shaped then Scotland would have been in serious trouble. But, given that westminster is holding on to vast sums of Scottish money I do wonder if Scotland could have bailed itself out. If it's one thing I hate as much as Politicians its banks.
 
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Maybe English devolution isn't needed because England's interests are adequately served by the 530 English MPs. I could see the case for regional English assemblies, but an English assembly would be redundant.

Comparing a devolved assembly to a sovereign Parliament is ridiculous. Westminster has the final say, so Scotland, Wales and NI need representation.
 
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Why is our parliament full of Welsh and Scottish MP's if they have a parliament of their own?

This is actually a very good point

Scots and welsh having their cake and eating it seems like.
 
I got a better idea..

Stick the 10,706,647 that voted tory on a island that will leave plenty of jobs and homes for the rest of us ;)

Then you tory boys can moan all you want to each other. But I bet you will blame every one else if you have problems :D


I'd love to see a labour country and a Conservative country, then after a decade or so the Labour country will be practically a 3rd world country with a begging bowl.
 
It's a specific topic on the political make up of the UK. The context of the OP and the timing after the national election makes out like Scotland, NI and Wales should not be part of the UK voting system. It is a different topic, although related.

The OP seems to think that the general election is/should be English only. And that "our parliament" is English. Not British!
 
What about all the other Scottish MPs (SNP only have 6)? Do all Scottish MPs abstain, I didn't think that was the case.

Nope they don't.

Look at topup fees, it was passed because of Labour Scottish MPs voting yes despite it being an England only issue and despite Scotland having free University education
 
Just as the same reason the North of England isn't a big fan of the torries Wales and Scotland don't favour then usually because torry policies tend to favour the more affluent UK citizens.

Anyone who wants a strong conservative government in power needs their head checked as it wont benefit the average working family of the UK that's for sure.

Yes THEY WILL, learn how the uk works. Less taxation on big companies means big companies create MORE JOBS< more profit and continue to grow, creating more jobs and more profit and overall more taxes paid anyway.

Increased taxation means less growth, less profits, and more reason to move the company to china, and tax thousands of jobs and ALL their tax money with them. That is massively worse than losing 1-2% of tax at the high end. Now try to work out whats going to happen when 1000's of jobs dissappear, yes, instead of a profitable company paying wages to 1000's of people, which are all taxed, and those people buying houses, and cars, and food, and going out and being taxed on all of that, again, out of profits made by selling say products to Asia/EU.

Instead those 1000's of people end up on the dole, making no tax contribution but sucking money out of the tax pool, and with the rich company gone, who foots the bill, yes, EVERYONES tax contribution has to go up to compensate.

Get a clue, increased taxes on the rich means VERY shorterm increases in tax revenue, before rich people and companies just decide to leave, because they have the option. Long term it MASSIVELY increases the tax poor people have to pay.

Reducing taxes on the rich(which are out of control high) leads to NO losses short term, and long term keeps millions of jobs and billions and billions in taxes stable and in the UK rather than being paid to China and Taiwan when the company leaves. It means lower unemployment, more jobs, more taxation, more people who can afford to buy houses, so more houses being built, meaning even more jobs.

The country, unquestionably, needs to KEEP its private sector jobs, its the key to lowering taxes on the poor, Labour has taxed the rich highly, ruined the economy, lost millions of jobs, lost 100's of massive companies and increased taxes on the poor massively.
 
This thread makes me

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agreed :)
 
I think it was on the bbc news where a student was complaining that Scottish MPs had voted for scrapping Uni fees in Scotland but voted against scrapping them in England. Now straight away we know if this was to happen in England it would be more expensive but my question is how they can contradict them self’s so much. If what the bbc showed was true then this is a perfect example of how stupid the current system is.

To be honest I dont care about student fees I think they should pay for unless degree's but degrees and courses that are needed skills in this country should be free.

Oh and morning
 
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