Asus rampage III Extreme

bhavv said:
I couldnt get mine stable at 2000 Mhz ram. Maybe the new bios will help a bit and eventually allow 4.2 Ghz with HT and 2000 Mhz ram, but I'd rather wait until new bioses are available on the Asus website first.

I'm just running 4.0 Ghz and 1600 Mhz 7-7-7-24 atm, not really anything special for a board this expensive, but its only just been released and newer bioses should help.

Or, its just not possible with 12 Gb :p. I forget about that being a limiting factor.
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The guys over at XS are getting much better results with the new BETA BIOSs, I wonder how long we will have to wait until its official?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=250635
 
-VK- said:
I got my hands on 0601 yesterday, it should be available on public release next week :)
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Do you have some kind of release/change log VK?

EDIT: Could you also pass on my findings with the S3 mode causing problems VK? I would love to send some kind of bug report to ASUS but I don't know how to so I would really appriciate it if you could pass that on. Also my findings with the QPI voltage jumping straight to 1.55V under XMP settings using G.Skill 6GB 2000MHz Tridents.
 
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Anyone finding the heatsinks are getting scorching hot even with decent airflow?

Sensors seem stuck at 52'C though for both the SB/NB.
 
Consider them passed on VortX. :)

According to my changelog, the 0601 BIOS adds:

1. Enable support for low voltage XMP DIMM.
2. Update CPU LevelUp module to support more CPU

There was also a few changes added in the 0507 (Not public released) BIOS, which include:

1. Modify LN2_Mode detection algorithm.
2. Enhance DRAM performance.

Hope that helps :)
 
-VK- said:
Consider them passed on VortX. :)

According to my changelog, the 0601 BIOS adds:

1. Enable support for low voltage XMP DIMM.
2. Update CPU LevelUp module to support more CPU

There was also a few changes added in the 0507 (Not public released) BIOS, which include:

1. Modify LN2_Mode detection algorithm.
2. Enhance DRAM performance.

Hope that helps :)
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Thanks VK you're a star :)
 
Colossus said:
Anyone finding the heatsinks are getting scorching hot even with decent airflow?

Sensors seem stuck at 52'C though for both the SB/NB.
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My NB idles at 54C and my SB idles at 44C.

Hardly any change when the comp is on load too.

If you are that worried about temps then put the extra heatsink/supplied fan on. Although the fan is very loud. Bear in mind though, the chips are built to withstand up to 100C, so it is only just half way there, nothing to worry about. Also bear in mind that many MSI X58 owners reported temps of 85C with stock heatsinks/thermal compound, so 55C is nothing to complain about. I'm not sure what the "usuall" temps are for the X58 chipset, but considering it can go up to 100C before it fails, 52-55C is pretty good!
 
Guys,

I'm getting a bit desperate. I'm running everything at stock speeds still, but my system keeps crashing. I have:
R3E with the stock fan on the north bridge
Point of View GTX 480 in the first PCIe slot
Be-quit 1200 Dark power
980X i7 and dominator 16000C8 with fans

After a while (30 min - 2 hours) the system comes to a complete halt. After hard reboot the eventlog shows:

ID 14 Source NV Error Unknown error on CMDre 0000001 <bunch of numbers>
It happens almost instantly when I start Crysis, but only after a long time if I stress the video card in any other way.

I tried Windows 7 x64, Windows 7 x86 and XP x64. All OSes report the same. Googling the problem resulted in some tests:

- Run with Video fan 100%
- Increase PCIe voltage some 0.1 volts

also installed the 0531 bios and the latest Nvidia drivers

None of this helps. Does any of you guys have a clue? Or how can I debug this further? Should I RMA the video card?
 
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Tradenurd said:
Guys,

I'm getting a bit desperate. I'm running everything at stock speeds still, but my system keeps crashing. I have:
R3E with the stock fan on the north bridge
Point of View GTX 480 in the first PCIe slot
Be-quit 1200 Dark power
980X i7 and dominator 16000C8 with fans

After a while (30 min - 2 hours) the system comes to a complete halt. After hard reboot the eventlog shows:

ID 14 Source NV Error Unknown error on CMDre 0000001 <bunch of numbers>
It happens almost instantly when I start Crysis, but only after a long time if I stress the video card in any other way.

I tried Windows 7 x64, Windows 7 x86 and XP x64. All OSes report the same. Googling the problem resulted in some tests:

- Run with Video fan 100%
- Increase PCIe voltage some 0.1 volts

also installed the 0531 bios and the latest Nvidia drivers

None of this helps. Does any of you guys have a clue? Or how can I debug this further? Should I RMA the video card?
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1. When did the problem first occur? Did it occur after installing a new peice of hardware, i.e the RE3 (or did you buy it all at the same time)?

2. Do you have any backup/spares in the hardware department, i.e. a spare graphics card/PSU/RAM etc?
 
I managed to get 4.2 Ghz stable, but with silly temps. It needed 1.38v with 100% LLC, but also with my BCLK and DRAM voltages reduced to the minimum needed to keep them stable - 1.225v for the BCLK @ 200, and just 1.43v for the ram at 1600 Mhz Cas 7, T1:



So I just reseated my CPU cooler. This was the paste spread before with just a horizontal line across the middle:



Clearly the paste didnt spread to the top and bottom edges and just stayed concentrated in the middle, so this time I used a vertical line and spread it out using the tip of the tube:



Hopefully it will make a difference. (Imageshack uploading my pictures the wrong way around is getting too annoying).

My ram and BCLK should have some serious extra OC headroom, but it just wont work any higher, I believe Its being crippled by my bad CPU.


I started out with testing at stock CPU frequency:



That is meant to be really good according to comparison with review temps of this cooler, except I just have one freak core that goes a few degrees higher :(.
 
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bhavv said:
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I have achieved simalar results to you, although for some reason my overclock requires a huge amount of QPI voltage when I put my RAM up higher (it's spec'd at 2GHz as well), up to a whopping 1.55V which is stupid. I am hoping the new BIOS updates will fix this.

EDIT: Also your temps are a bit crazy! What cooler are you using?
 
VortX said:
EDIT: Also your temps are a bit crazy! What cooler are you using?
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Asus triton 88:

http://www.ithinkibrokeit.co.uk/articles/triton88/page5.php#Results

eternal_fantasy said:
I can just imagine how much air will be trapped using the TIM application method on your third picture.
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I doubt its any worse than spreading it out with a credit card, which I were going to do, but I remember that method just being a waste of paste as most of it just ends up on the card.
 
@bhavv

far too much TIM imo mate, remember the idea of TIM is to fill the micro pockets between the the cpu and the heatsink is not supposed to be a filling like sarnie :p
a lot of people get scared thinking they didt put enough on less is more buddy :)
 
bhavv said:
Asus triton 88:

http://www.ithinkibrokeit.co.uk/articles/triton88/page5.php#Results



I doubt its any worse than spreading it out with a credit card, which I were going to do, but I remember that method just being a waste of paste as most of it just ends up on the card.
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I just use my finger to spread it out evenly but I guess that is a bad idea because of the oils in your skil etc.

As for your temps, 1.38V @ 90C max, I have a tripple rad WC setup and I am just testing it at 1.42V @ 83C max, so I don't think you're temps are "that" bad, just these chips run VERY hot. Try to keep it under 1.35V ideally.

EDIT: You may find this useful: http://www.techpowerup.com/printarticle.php?id=134
 
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BigBruiserAl said:
@bhavv

far too much TIM imo mate, remember the idea of TIM is to fill the micro pockets between the the cpu and the heatsink is not supposed to be a filling like sarnie :p
a lot of people get scared thinking they didt put enough on less is more buddy :)
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The temps were lower now, I got 88 - 84 - 81 - 80, but it BSODs within 10 minutes at 4.2 Ghz, so now I'm begining to think its definately the board / bios.

The amount of tim to use depends on the type of tim, with MX3, I found I got far better results on both my CPU and GPU by covering the CPU / GPU really well. Using a rice grain or pea size amount gives absolutely terrible temps with MX3 and it doesnt spread anywhere.

This is what it used to be at on my UD5:



:(
 
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VortX said:
1. When did the problem first occur? Did it occur after installing a new peice of hardware, i.e the RE3 (or did you buy it all at the same time)?

I bought all the new stuff at the same time and installed it at once.

2. Do you have any backup/spares in the hardware department, i.e. a spare graphics card/PSU/RAM etc?
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Yes. I have an old 8800GTX that I will use to test. Also I could move the GTX480 into my old system (Intel DP35DP Mobo). Problem is that my old PSU does not have the correct wires to get all the power to the 480.

Thanks.
 
bhavv said:
I doubt its any worse than spreading it out with a credit card, which I were going to do, but I remember that method just being a waste of paste as most of it just ends up on the card.
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The best method is also the simplest. One ball from the size of a grain of rice to a pea, depending on the consistency of the TIM, at the center of the CPU, then drop the heat sink or water block straight on, spreading the TIM in the process. This way you know any air between the contact surfaces are pushed out as the TIM spreads. The actual chip is much smaller then the IHS, so the little bit on the side that wasn't touched by the TIM really won't make a difference. All these lines, crosses, union flag pattern, spreading it with your finger or a credit card (which happens to be the most time consuming with the worst result, as it traps the most air from the never perfect manual spreading, creating crevices), smiley face pattern etc. you see people touting are just compensating for the fact that some people can't or find it hard to place the heat sink straight down onto the CPU.
 
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