I wasn't really wanting this thread to be about 'the death of the pc', it was meant to be about, 'the death of the console' which is actually more likely of the two.
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I wasn't really wanting this thread to be about 'the death of the pc', it was meant to be about, 'the death of the console' which is actually more likely of the two.
Up until a couple of months ago I would have agreed that PC gaming was dying a bit but then I discovered Steam (a little late to the party I know!). Until that point I only used my PC for playing WoW. All other games were played on my PS3 in front of a 50" telly from the comfort of my sofa.
Since installing Steam though I've probably purchased more games for the PC in the last month than I have in the last 2 years. I've discovered some awesome games that totally passed me by and am loving the convenience of being able to just pay and download games in 20 minutes or so.
PC gaming isn't dead, it just needs people to realise that it can be as convenient as console gaming.
Since installing Steam though I've probably purchased more games for the PC in the last month than I have in the last 2 years. I've discovered some awesome games that totally passed me by and am loving the convenience of being able to just pay and download games in 20 minutes or so.
PC gaming isn't dead, it just needs people to realise that it can be as convenient as console gaming.
Steam is a great example of what PC could be, it's unfortunate that there is no uniform way of doing things, by this I mean you have [steam, xfire, games for windows Live, Direct2Drive, metaboli, GAME UK download service etc etc]
It really is a shame if Steam was made as the standard for PC gaming, everybody would be able to keep in touch with friends, track stats, clock game hours, buy games online and also use disc games, backup downloaded games, integrate games into steamworks, the interface is modern and easy to use. Tis a real shame a standard was not established, maybe in the early days Microsoft could have created something similar and it would have been what xbox live is to xbox 360 (free tho ofc)
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They (developers, manufacturers, etc) will support/invest where the money is (consoles - as per your link) not the PC market.
Cloud gaming won't be as big as you think - there are too many things against it.
Steam has become more convenient than any console can ever be. All we need now is OEMs to put semi decent gfx cards into machines and everyone will have a gaming capable rig (dual/quad core is the norm for everyone these days, CPU is not an issue)
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I disagree, not everything in the market is dwindling, digital distribution of games has taken off, I imagine more money is spent on Steam (for example) than is ever spend on Xbox live.
Whilst it is true that piracy is probably having an effect on PC sales, it won't be as dramatic as you or the game developers like to pretend it is.
You obviously do favour console gaming with the 'I don't have the patience or interest in what is involved in gaming on PC'. Those of us who enjoy computers do have the patience, as its our hobby, and getting things to work to their best is what we enjoy doing. Plus, have you installed a PC game recently? Painless usually.
think that makes more sense
PSCHHHH as big as I think?? Every single computer will eventually be connected to the cloud, it's called the future, it will be massive, if you think we will be stuck still using computers and consoles in 10-20 years then you make me chuckle
I bet there were a load of people laughing at the wright brothers trying to fly saying 'it won't be as big as you think' understatement!!!!!!
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PSCHHHH as big as I think?? Every single computer will eventually be connected to the cloud, it's called the future, it will be massive, if you think we will be stuck still using computers and consoles in 10-20 years then you make me chuckle
I bet there were a load of people laughing at the wright brothers trying to fly saying 'it won't be as big as you think' understatement!!!!!!
Oh right, 10 - 20 years you're talking? Broadband has a long way to go before it can support (to a level most gamers would want) cloud gaming. Have you seen the demos? Even on a LAN they were somewhat laggy.
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can't see that
Neither can I.
Subscriptions, movies, games to buy...all within that huge player base. I doubt Steam makes that kind of money otherwise they would have the need to release deals like this one - barely £2 per game.
Broadband has a long way to go before it can support (to a level most gamers would want) cloud gaming. Have you seen the demos? Even on a LAN they were somewhat laggy.
True but onlive and obviously microsoft/sony once they jump on the bandwagon will evolve the technology to work more efficiently so it wouldn't suprise me if by 2020 it was becoming widespread and people start to taunt the death of the console
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i was without lcd pc monitor for approx 3 months at the start of this year...tbh i didnt miss it... playing ps3 on 40" lcd is good enough.
the only thing i did miss was COH, and now i have a new 24" screen for my pc im back hooked into that./
but do you know how many patches you must install when installing coh from a fresh?
its probably 2 hours of patching...no it doesnt autopatch itself and no there isnt 1 rolled up patch you have to do each one individually...its **** like that that will put less hardcore people off pc gaming.
the only thing i did miss was COH, and now i have a new 24" screen for my pc im back hooked into that./
but do you know how many patches you must install when installing coh from a fresh?
its probably 2 hours of patching...no it doesnt autopatch itself and no there isnt 1 rolled up patch you have to do each one individually...its **** like that that will put less hardcore people off pc gaming.
If you go on torrents you can easily find pirated games and if the console has a hard drive of some sort then its going to get pirated. The piracy argument doesn't stand up to me. I'm sure its more of an issue than on console but its not PC exclusive. You might find its more to do with the console manufacturer squeezing their pound of flesh from the dev making them focus on consoles
I sold my PS3 because I tend to only play 3 types of game - FPS, racing and strategy. The first and last I find very awkward using a controller. I also mainly used it for bluray playback but I bought a bluray drive for my PC. There was no need to keep the PS3 for me.
Don't miss the PS3 at all. Someone above mentioned as consoles become like PCs the limitations become noticeable. I would imagine that as both PC and console progress the distinction may well blur - the only thing blocking them all becoming one and the same is architecture.
I can't see PC gaming disappearing. For instance I'm playing two games right now Stalker CoP and AVP3. Now AVP3 feel like a console game and its controls are clearly dumbed down for consoles. No bad thing but it doesn't keep me playing more than a couple of hours. Stalker on the other hand feels every bit the PC game and I'll play it for hours on end wandering around.
Its like comparing MacDonalds to a 4 star restaurant. Almost everyone loves a Big Mac but you know you'd rather be in the Fat Duck.
I sold my PS3 because I tend to only play 3 types of game - FPS, racing and strategy. The first and last I find very awkward using a controller. I also mainly used it for bluray playback but I bought a bluray drive for my PC. There was no need to keep the PS3 for me.
Don't miss the PS3 at all. Someone above mentioned as consoles become like PCs the limitations become noticeable. I would imagine that as both PC and console progress the distinction may well blur - the only thing blocking them all becoming one and the same is architecture.
I can't see PC gaming disappearing. For instance I'm playing two games right now Stalker CoP and AVP3. Now AVP3 feel like a console game and its controls are clearly dumbed down for consoles. No bad thing but it doesn't keep me playing more than a couple of hours. Stalker on the other hand feels every bit the PC game and I'll play it for hours on end wandering around.
Its like comparing MacDonalds to a 4 star restaurant. Almost everyone loves a Big Mac but you know you'd rather be in the Fat Duck.
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It's the console controller that puts me off with games like Fable and FPS based games, i mean, after playing the first Fable on PC, i seriously loved it and enjoyed it compared to playing it on the Xbox, mainly to do with the controller.
I just prefer mouse and keyboard more to a controller.
I just prefer mouse and keyboard more to a controller.
Congratulations, you're an ignorant tool.
And you just can't have an argument without resorting to insults, can you
Only game I ever really felt happy playing with a controller than wasn't a racing game was Dead Space and I think that was mostly down to loving the game.
I got bored/fed up with CoD MW2 and never bothered to complete it on PS3.
Even with driving games I think these days you can get a wireless PS3 controller (360 controller is pointless because humans don't have enough hands IMO) to work with a PC so I can set up the racing game and play on the main TV no problem.
I only play GTA, Sports and games which the devs didn't even try to make controls good for with a pad. racers I use a wheel, shooters I use a mouse
For one, the PC has never been a dedicated gaming machine. It has to do a lot more, and that has a negative consequence in terms of cost, efficiency and stability when playing games. Consoles, on the other hand, are purpose designed to play games.
They're also designed to be idiot proof. The typical PC applications (Word, Excel, Access) are not idiot proof. Different market.
Second, with the amount of pap that's being released across all formats by the big studios, frankly their loss to consoles isn't a huge deal. Going outside or reading a book has become much more fun.
Frankly, I do not resent Epic for moving to consoles. EA and Activision, would you kindly follow them? What I resent is the attempt to push mainstream games onto a platform (the PC), which has a rich history of complex games which rewarded players with functioning brain cells. Simulations, strategy games, number crunching and puzzle games.
Frankly, if we get rid of crap like BioShock, Fallout3 and all those other cross-platform abominations, maybe the IQ of your average PC gamer can get back to what it was before...
They're also designed to be idiot proof. The typical PC applications (Word, Excel, Access) are not idiot proof. Different market.
Second, with the amount of pap that's being released across all formats by the big studios, frankly their loss to consoles isn't a huge deal. Going outside or reading a book has become much more fun.
Frankly, I do not resent Epic for moving to consoles. EA and Activision, would you kindly follow them? What I resent is the attempt to push mainstream games onto a platform (the PC), which has a rich history of complex games which rewarded players with functioning brain cells. Simulations, strategy games, number crunching and puzzle games.
Frankly, if we get rid of crap like BioShock, Fallout3 and all those other cross-platform abominations, maybe the IQ of your average PC gamer can get back to what it was before...