The REAL reason why they haven't been back to the Moon

MameFX said:
that was released few years ago it tells of the Yanks and Russians race to the moon obviously,thing is the russians were way way way ahead of the yanks,then all of a sudden the yanks land on the moon,even when the russians were more technologically advanced in rocket design etc etc
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So are you seriously telling me that the Russians with their advanced capabilities, blindly accepted that USA landed on the moon without having the proof that USA did it first?
You've got to be completely nuts if you think that they didn't follow the launch & landing every inch of the way.
Believe me, if USA hadn't landed on that moon the Russians would have known and would have real evidence.
 
Also japanese space agency mapped the moon in HD and said they world release imagery for all to view
then after the mission they announced they will not be releasing the imagery
why?
 
userunknown said:
face it guys, its real, there is no way on earth we went to the moon and didnt go back for a reason.
too many astronauts have said stuff about sightings.
the moon is ocupied by a small number of people, what they do there is unclear but im willing the bet they are there.
and why didnt they go back, they do, just we havent been shown the tech thats going there
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This isn't /b/. Do your trolling elsewhere.

Although... reading your subsequent posts I'm not sure you're trolling. Maybe you're one of those "13 families"/"the cain line" nuts, actually, that'd make sense.

Holliday said:
...I can't quite see what the Ex-Canadian Defence Minister had to gain from such claims, but when such people do make these kind of claims, there has to be some truth to it.
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So does this mean we are to believe everything Tom Cruise spouts off about scientology? Or Sarah Palin or George Bush or any other almost-invariably-christian senior politician spouts off about their magical friend jesus?

Just because someone holds some position of authority/prominence/respect*, does not mean they are not insane.

*As T. Cruise sort of did before everyone discovered he was insane. I did say "sort of" ok.
 
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I'm no troll
I'm just arguing the my thoughts !

I'm alowed to have an opionion aren't I?
Yeah thought so
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
One of the main reason the N1 rocket was unsuccessful was not due to the rocket engines themselves but the way they were used. The Americans preferred a lower number of more powerful engines whereas the Russians used a larger number of smaller engines clustered together which lead to issues with balancing the thrust properly in such a large rocket.
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Yep. NASA's large engine design (the F-1) suffered from severe combustion instability at first, a problem that the Russians might not have gotten over as they didn't have the funds to throw at it that NASA and the US did. So they fell back on their experience with engine clustering, which would have probably worked eventually. But when you blow four rockets up with failures in workmanship (destroying the launch site in one explosion) you tend to lose heart in the whole thing. Sergei Korolyov dying pretty much sealed the N1's fate, and with it the chance for the Russians to get to the Moon.
 
Holliday said:
This one is a big big read with a lot of technical words most of which went right over my head, but I got the general gist of it;

http://astroengineer.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/a-curiosity-of-spirit-full-document/#part1.
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Thank you very much for that. It kept me up into the night and I had intended to give thanks earlier but fell asleep on my keyboard. :o

Though my understanding of quantum mechanics is minute, I can say that pretty much everything else in there seems plausible. The fact that all of his other posts, before and after, indicate a wealth of knowledge and experience make me believe that something was there, though I couldn't say whether or not it would be possible for it to have been FTL communications. If that kind of stuff exists, however, you'd have to wonder what other highly advanced technologies have been developed that we don't know of.
 
mk17 said:
"the moon is crawling with aliens"
"nasa had been warned off"

that's as far as I could tolerate.

jeebus!
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That's nowt I only made it to your post & didn't even bother clicking on it. :D
Cheers. :p
 
Tetsujin said:
Just because someone holds some position of authority/prominence/respect*, does not mean they are not insane.
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Yup I definitely agree, but that doesn't only apply to those who oppose what the public are told, but in fact those who tell the public what to believe.


JHeaton said:
Thank you very much for that. It kept me up into the night and I had intended to give thanks earlier but fell asleep on my keyboard. :o
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All good! Aye it is a big read, all the coding jargon just went straight over my head, pretty interesting if it is indeed true, and still a good read if it is fiction.
 
Holliday said:
All good! Aye it is a big read, all the coding jargon just went straight over my head, pretty interesting if it is indeed true, and still a good read if it is fiction.
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Yes, gripping regardless of the truth behind it. To be honest, a lot of the computer-related stuff being explained so well and easily being possible is what kept me going :p
 
Holliday said:
I'm pretty certain that no one on this forum has actually been to the moon so everyone here is coming to conclusions from that they've been told, not know, but told.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion based on information given to them. However, I'm much more inclined to respect the opinion of someone who researches and looks for anomolies in such things as space exploration, than someone who just believes what the TV tells him.
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Yes, we're all entitled to your own opinion, but some people here seem to think they're entitled to their own facts.

Holliday said:
If anything I just think it's interesting to read about, and the more you read about it, especially UFO's and Aliens the more 'evidence' there seems to be, like the video I posted earlier, I can't quite see what the Ex-Canadian Defence Minister had to gain from such claims, but when such people do make these kind of claims, there has to be some truth to it.
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No, really it doesn't.

Holliday said:
"The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true" - Carl Sagan
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Is the Carl Sagan quote supposed to be ironic?
 
oli collett said:
Yes, we're all entitled to your own opinion, but some people here seem to think they're entitled to their own facts.

No, really it doesn't.

Is the Carl Sagan quote supposed to be ironic?
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People come to their own conclusion on things after viewing evidence given to them, some take it a step further and try to find flaws or counter-evidence, some don't bother.

I think the moment Humans stop questioning what we're told is the moment we stop advancing. I mean look at the Electric Universe theory, which questions everything modern science has come to believe about our Universe. Will it eventually be disregarded as baloney? Or maybe even take precedence over our current model of the Universe?

I'm not saying what I believe is right and what you believe is wrong, but I think the worst thing people can do is stop questioning what we're told.

I suppose the Sagan quote can be viewed as Ironic, but it depends what side of the coin you look at it upon.
 
Holliday said:
some take it a step further and try to find flaws or counter-evidence, some don't bother.

I.
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If you did that you would see how stupid these CT are.

Just because people don't believe in CTs does not mean they have not researched or questioned it. A common miss-perception by CTs
 
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