FBI, facebook, UK etc.. Good? Bad?

Do you know the dude in the photo?

How in the holy name of Batman, has that picture been allowed on here with that swear word in it?
 
Captain it's quite clear from that pic that you're not the guy involved. There's a few differences, including the small 'mole' on your right cheek just above an imaginary line drawn through your septum. The guy in the other pic has big shades, but accounting for the angle of his head the mole would still be visible.

My mrs wants to know if you have a younger brother? She said you have a passing resemblance but it's clearly not you. :p Good luck mate.
 
Energize said:
Great to see police resources are being used wisely on investigating every joke someone posts on facebook, the pigs should be arrested for false arrest and human rights violations.
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You seem quite vocal with your condemnation of the police but not quite so vocal as to what you would do differently bearing in mind it could be argued that it isn't your average Facebook joke and also that the full information and case details are not know by you nor I nor the media.

In the UK, bar the likes of the PSNI, MoD police etc, we have an unarmed service as you know so we do things differently. I do not use the OP as a sole example but when information is passed where, joke or jest intended or not, any information is received that could be connected to a potential armed threat, it has to be acted upon and will be done in accordance with ACPO policy and also under the command of a senior officer.

You do not know what information the police received, what people at the school may have said, what teachers may have said and indeed other information gathered so perhaps you should hold back with your quite acidic condemnation of the police before all the facts are in although I do say, and always have, that the police are not a perfect organisation and perhaps a way of doing things better will arise from this.

Alternatively, if you are so concerned and motivated by the shocking jackboot tactics of the police then take your case up with Liberty or indeed any other human rights group. It may be more constructive than slinging childish insults around on an internet forum.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
You seem quite vocal with your condemnation of the police...
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I'm never one to jump into these types of debates normally. However it seems fairly clear to me that, as unfortunate as this is for Captain atm, it's the only way it could have happened. Some idiot posts an armed threat against the school online; police receive the information and unfortunately teachers (apparently?) said "That looks like [Captain].". Cue his arrest for investigation on the matter.

Seems common sense and fair enough for me, notwithstanding the obvious distress it will cause Captain in the meantime. What else do they do? Wait for the nut to carry out his threat and say "Ah well that's definitely the guy, right there..."?
 
I think the problem is that for some reason people see Twitter and Facebook et al as "private placed" when in reality they are not. They are a public space and so you need to act appropriately for a public space. You wouldn't stand outside an airport and shout threats about bombing it, you wouldn't stand outside a school with a gun and joke about killing bullies. Doing it on Facebook or on Twitter or on any public message board is just as silly.

This isn't a freedom of speech issue, it is a stupidity issue.
 
@Rainmaker: Or look at the picture they were carrying with them at the time of arrest, look at me and MAGICALLY deduce that it's not me with something called eyesight and not bother wasting both my time and theirs, amongst other things.

That would be common sense, rather than blindly believing teachers who haven't seen me in years.

What if I find a picture on the internet of some random stranger with a threat, tell the police that it's you, and they come and arrest you at gunpoint even though it's clearly not you? Is that the only way of going about it? Because that's what has happened and I have no problem saying that on a public forum.
 
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Captain_Slick said:
@Rainmaker: Or look at the picture they were carrying with them at the time of arrest, look at me and MAGICALLY deduce that it's not me with something called eyesight and not bother wasting both my time and theirs.

That would be common sense, rather than blindly believing teachers who haven't seen me in years.
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Quite true mate, but to be fair you're hardly objective here (with good reason I add!). At the end of the day it does bear a resemblance to you on first examination. It's their necks on the chopping block if they think "meh n/m" and later you went out and wiped out the sixth form or something. These things are processes, unfortunately. As I said you have 'teh OcUK' behind you so try to chill and it'll soon be sorted out I'm sure. :)
 
It bears a resemblance to me on first examination in the same way that I bear a resemblance to every other young teenage male that has ever existed, except for gingers.

The thing that I'm most angry about is the fact that we've heard nothing from them for 5 days now. They were quick enough to come and arrest me for no reason.
 
IMHO I think the police acted with the best interest of everyone at the school they identified.

I would much rather they act in such a way than do nothing and something horrific happen, you have to remember just a few weeks ago someone went around Cumbria on a shooting spree.
 
But that's the thing, anticonscience, they haven't done anything in the school's interest.

As far as I'm aware, they haven't arrested anyone else. They don't know who made the threat and they don't know whether it is a real threat or not (although the fact that it was followed by a message saying "trolled" and it was posted on 4chan of all places suggests that it wasn't).
 
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In fairness Captain, it will very likely take more than 5 days to sort this one out as there will be a lot of avenues of enquiry.
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That may be the case but, since those avenues of enquiry will have nothing to do with me, I don't really care. They have no right or need to keep our belongings or to have taken them in the first place for that matter.
 
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Just a quick question though: could the FBI have gotten 4chan to trace the IP of the actual person who posted it in the first place? They could have arrested the correct person in the first place then, surely?
 
Captain_Slick said:
But that's the thing, anticonscience, they haven't done anything in the school's interest.

As far as I'm aware, they haven't arrested anyone else. They don't know who made the threat and they don't know whether it is a real threat or not (although the fact that it was followed by a message saying "trolled" and it was posted on 4chan of all places suggests that it wasn't).
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Sadly these are the times we live in, people need to realise they cannot make such threats in the public domain.

Sadly you got caught up in all this, wrongly accused by your teacher.

Surely you would rather this course of action as opposed to nothing being done and someone actually shooting up your school and maybe even killing you?
 
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