Middle lane, motorway, weekend

InvaderGIR said:
No, the problem is people don't understand the idea of left lane being the lane to be in and middle and right being overtaking lanes. They assume middle is normal, left is lorry and right is 'fast'.
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which is true to a certain extent.

Certainly monday to friday 7 - 9 and 4 - 6. But its when the motorway quietens down that the problems start. People forget to move into the inside lane as the trucks have all gone home.
 
What roads do you drive? All the motorways I've driven that is true for 24/7, even at 3am.

Also my point isn't anything to do with lorries anyway, it's people's assumptions of the lanes, which is certainly valid 24/7/365 for most idiots.
 
M62 is like this during rush hour. Its horrendous for traffic. m1 can be, but it tends to be around certain flashpoint areas - Eg on the approach to J42 for the M1/m62 interchange, where the M62 is terrible along the whole stretch come rush hour.
 
InvaderGIR said:
No, the problem is people don't understand the idea of left lane being the lane to be in and middle and right being overtaking lanes. They assume middle is normal, left is lorry and right is 'fast'.
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Is that really surprising though, when you're not allowed on motorways when learning to drive? Unless someone actually tells you how it works (or rather how it's supposed to work) when you're a learner, how will you know?
 
SlyReaper said:
Is that really surprising though, when you're not allowed on motorways when learning to drive? Unless someone actually tells you how it works (or rather how it's supposed to work) when you're a learner, how will you know?
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I worked it out fine, they should be able to as well. It's a very simple case of being a dual carriageway with an extra overtaking lane. That's how I've always viewed it and I'm sure there is mention of it in the relevant texts when you learn to drive.
 
SlyReaper said:
Is that really surprising though, when you're not allowed on motorways when learning to drive? Unless someone actually tells you how it works (or rather how it's supposed to work) when you're a learner, how will you know?
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Highway code, read it once, great book.

There's also questions in the Theory test on Motorway Discipline.

Q: The left-hand lane of a motorway should be used for... A: normal driving.

Q: A basic rule when on motorways is... A: keep to the left-hand lane unless overtaking.

Q: The left-hand lane on a three-lane motorway is for use by... A: any vehicle.
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So I'm not really accepting 'no one teaches me' as an excuse for crap discipline as it's in the curriculum and even if you don't get to go out on the motorway, the theory is taught.
 
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MrLOL said:
If they ignore it, usually a flash of the headlights does the trick and i can proceed on my 80mph (err approximately 70 ish h'officer :D) + way.
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Headlight flashers drive me mad, especially if in the fast lane doing 80mph and some **** flashs as you are overtaking slow traffic. Usually drivers of people carriers and bottom of the range diesel repmobiles.

I used to be a bigger **** and over take at 1mph faster, then speed up to 90mph and then overtake at 1mph faster again for the next few miles.
 
Sone said:
Headlight flashers drive me mad, especially if in the fast lane doing 80mph and some **** flashs as you are overtaking slow traffic. Usually drivers of people carriers and bottom of the range diesel repmobiles.

I used to be a bigger **** and over take at 1mph faster, then speed up to 90mph and then overtake at 1mph faster again for the next few miles.
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I dont do more than 85 indicated out of principle.

You're unlikely to see me flashing you if you're doing 80. I was more referencing the idiots doing 65 in the inside lane and the people in the outside lane doing 67 :)
 
Meh, I just join the motorway, go instantly to the outside lane, then carve across all the lanes to take my exit after the | board.
 
I regulary drive on motorways early in the morning and see exactly this. I will approach in the left lane and while over taking the car in the middle lane I will hold my beams on and go right around them.
 
I had a fun one in the BMW of an old dear in their people carrier sat in the outside lane at about 50mph, empty road ahead, they had no reason to be there. I waited patiently, for a few mins, tried flashing, nothing, waited, beeped the horn, waited, nothing, got undertaken by a few cars, nothing. Carefully undertook then proceeded to return to the lane as traffic was beginning to build up ahead in the other lanes and I wanted to overtake them. Old dear never bothered to move over though each time I glanced in rear view.

Patience doesn't always help, sometimes these people are just morons.
 
James_N said:
Yet, in France, lane disapline is second to none. Us english should take a leaf out of their book.
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Indeed, what you often see in the continent from drivers that want to get past a slow car in the fast lane, is indicating towards the central reservation. It's like an unwritten rule to indicate to make the driver in front pull the hell out of the way.
 
Sone said:
Headlight flashers drive me mad, especially if in the fast lane doing 80mph and some **** flashs as you are overtaking slow traffic. Usually drivers of people carriers and bottom of the range diesel repmobiles.

I used to be a bigger **** and over take at 1mph faster, then speed up to 90mph and then overtake at 1mph faster again for the next few miles.
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I love these situations, I just stay in the lane I am in and even slow down! It makes me laugh to see their frustration build and build. Then give them the two fingered salute as they pass me when I finally pull into the middle lane and they pass me on the outside.

Its always a VW Golf driver. Always.

There is 'fast' in the fast lane, but there can be too fast that borders on downright dangerous.
 
Had a whole hell of a lot of this with my 20mins on the M3 today, lots of inside lane>pull out two lanes to overtake a car>pull back across said car back into inside lane again.

no one ever gets the hint even when you pull straight across them back into the inside lane :/
 
physichull said:
I love these situations, I just stay in the lane I am in and even slow down! It makes me laugh to see their frustration build and build. Then give them the two fingered salute as they pass me when I finally pull into the middle lane and they pass me on the outside.

Its always a VW Golf driver. Always.

There is 'fast' in the fast lane, but there can be too fast that borders on downright dangerous.
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So you cause a dangerous situation because you think someone else is being dangerous??
 
One of my fastest motorway journeys has to be when they put signs up saying something along the lines of the middle lane should only be used for overtaking vehicles in the left hand lane. you were either in the left hand lane, the fast lane or overtaking. The system does work when everyone remembers the rules
 
I like performing the world's slowest lane change when someone's right up behind me and I'm in lane 3, overtaking someone. It's funny watching them instantly boot it then realise I'm not quite out of their way :D
 
physichull said:
Pretty much. But thinking about it, who is the one who is actually being dangerous? Because it isn't me.
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This is me right now :p

Seriously though, let them past and the sooner this dangerous person is away from you.
 
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