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Sadly, they will won't they. I would have liked to see him go a lot further on (cutting / abolishing) child benefit and child tax credits personally. He even increased the latter at the end!
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Originally Posted by britboy4321
Precisely. The vast majority of the people in this country, for one reason or another, spend less than 50% of their disposable income on VAT exempt goods.
But try explaining that to this forum! It's a minefield I tells ya!
Originally Posted by britboy4321
MOST people spend the VAST majority of their income on good subject to VAT. Sorry, it's just the real world mate!
er, both posts say EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Read slower, young padawan ..
Precisely. The vast majority of the people in this country, for one reason or another, spend less than 50% of their disposable income on VAT exempt goods.
But try explaining that to this forum! It's a minefield I tells ya!
Originally Posted by britboy4321
MOST people spend the VAST majority of their income on good subject to VAT. Sorry, it's just the real world mate!
er, both posts say EXACTLY THE SAME THING. Read slower, young padawan ..
Why? Most people in this country spend their money on a mortgage, utility bills and food. VAT is only on products that one doesn't need to survive, items which do have VAT on them are luxuries, and should be the first thing to have tax increased on them when the government needs the money.
The sum of money that children spend on chocolate is negligible, and frankly who cares that kids get less chocolate with their pocket money?
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So you're taking into account the £20 I spent a week on fags and sweets as a kid compared to the rest of the population who spend ~£150 minimum on essentials and non-essentials?
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I wasn't talking about the VAT increase, I was defending my right to claim Child Benefit, remember?
Perhaps I'm slightly playing devils advocate, but the 2005 election wasn't a bluewash in England. Labour won everywhere. It wasn't a case of Scottish constituency's running the show. For one thing, there isn't anywhere near enough of them.
So your issue is the West Lothian question?
I agree with your issue with this entirely but the idea that somehow Scottish politicians have been running the show is a ridiculous assumption.
Also, many Scottish MPs purposely did not vote on English only matters.
I wish there was never a Scottish parliament in the first place, I've always campaigned against it.
Really? Who was that then? Or are you making up replys to argue against as you are doing so badly with real ones?
The Tories got more VOTES in England in 2005. The largest and most powerful country in the Union got ruled by a party it didn't vote for. Simple as that really.
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No, MOST people (all ages included) don't have to spend ANY money on mortgage or rent. Either SOMEONE ELSE or THE STATE picks up the bill or THEY'VE PAID IT OFF. Capiche?
And the AMOUNT the individual person spends is nothing to do with what we're talking about. Whether it is £2 a month or £200,000 a month, the silly-billys argue 'most people IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP' spend more on VAT exempt goods than on VATable goods.
In short, they're talking rubbish. And it's funny.
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Why would you include all ages? That's retarded, obviously children won't have mortgages, and neither will old people who are home owners?
Somewhat of a sweeping statement there... Scroungers do buy food as well.
This from the man who said a 2.5% VAT increase is the same as a 2.5% pay cut...
If someone is on housing benefit, that is still part of their income. For someone on benefits, it will often be the largest single component of their income.
Council tax benefit will make up another large chunk of their income, even though it isn't cash they actually get in their hand to spend, it doesn't matter.
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No it isn't really. Most people's money goes on mortgages, bills, clothes and food........
maybe you should count yourself lucky instead of (what i'd call bragging) about how much you earn?
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Just, simply, entirely not true.
You're thinking only of 'Employed under 50 year old people'. Not the entire demographic.
And gas/electric bills (5% VAT) etc. of course. I don't think ANYONE spends over 50% of their income on stuff which attracts the full rate of VAT. They will certainly be a small minority.