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5770 to 5850?

inverseSquare

inverseSquare

inverseSquare

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Hi all,

Built my machine a few months ago during the 5850 drought ;)

So at the time I just got a 5770 to tide me over, safe in the knowledge by bro would want it when I upgraded.
Unfortuntely that time has come a little quick as his gfx card has just died, so I'm thinking of replacing the 5770 now.

So a few q's for your sage council ;)
  • Would a 5850 be a decent upgrade from my Powercolor 5770?
  • Would it draw significanly more power?
  • Would I need any different power cables?

  • Are there any nvidia options I should be looking at as well?


Machine specs:
  • i7 920 D0 (stock) (with noctua U12P)
  • *Powercolor 5770*
  • Gigabyte UD5
  • 6GB
  • 1TB Spinpoint F3 HD
  • DVD R/W
  • Fractal Design Newton PS 800W
  • Fractal Design R2 Case
  • Win7 Home

Thanks for the input :)
 
What res do you play on? The 5850 is a great upgrade from the 5770 depending on the res. Your PSU will have the connectors and will cope just fine, it uses 2 x 6 pin connectors.
 
You wont see a massive gain, but maybe a few extra fps here n there

your psu is fine, do you have 8pin power connector?

not sure if its 2 x 6 or 1 x 6 - 1 x 8, if you havent got enough connectors, you should get molex adaptors in the box :)
 
I play at 1600x1200 (mostly TF2 and Bad Company 2), I'd imagine I would replace this monitor with a a 24" 1920x1200 at some point - perhaps even higher res.
Nothing immediate though.

Is 1600x1200 enough to see a difference?


Another point :) :
I see that some 5850's are using non-reference coolers now, are any better than the standard 'box' system? I'd ideally like it no louder than by current 5770.


Thanks again :)
 
i prefer the box system and always will. Provides cooling over the card, were as a 3rd party cooler will just cool the chip.

1600 x 1200 will be fine for a 5850, but you will be happy moving to 1920 x 1200 :)
 
inverseSquare said:
  • i7 920 D0 (stock) (with noctua U12P)
  • Powercolor 5770
  • I play at 1600x1200 (mostly TF2 and Bad Company 2)
  • I would replace this monitor with a a 24" 1920x1200 at some point
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Hey inverseSquare,

I think the HD 5850 is a loverly card but it's OverPriced for what it is? . . . what are your feelings about CrossFired HD 5770's? :)

 
i had a 5770, bought a 5850 to try out and moved back to the 5770 and CF them :)

They are awesome, they max out any game i play on my monitor :)
 
yep, crossfire 5770 over 1 5850 for sure.

but saying that, if you was happy enough with the 5770, a single 5850 would definatly be a good choice (plus overclocking the 5850 a little will bring in more gains) if your getting a good price back for the 5770.
 
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Yeah, I'm going to be losing the 5770 :)

TBH I'd be worried about the heat + noise from a couple of crossfired cards anyhow...

Looks like the 5850 is an ok single card choice then.

Looking at the options it seems that HIS has an aftermarket box cooler system as well? -
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-004-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411

Would that be any louder than the normal reference cooler? - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-215-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=411


Thanks :)
 
Hi again inverseSquare,

Your in a very cool position atm to be able to splurge over £200 smackers on a GPU . . . you may think this is the norm but actually in the RealWorld your in a tiny percentage of lucky few who can do this! . . . the purpose of me posting in this thread with you is to make 100% sure you get the best deal possible . . .

It's obvious from what you have said so far that you really, really "want" a HD 5850 . . and probably have done since the launch when they were £199 but you ended up going with a HD 5770 safe in the knowledge that you could probably sell it to your brother . . . this was a plan you made many months ago and due to the problem with your Brothers system you are getting ready to put that "possibly" flawed plan into action . . . .

I'm not here to tell you what to buy or what you need but from where I'm looking the CrossFired HD 5770's seems much better bang-for-buck than a single HD 5850? . . . . by answering my questions and telling me your objections to the possibility of using a pair of HD 5770's vs a HD 5850 you may help me see some aspect that I previously did not consider! :)

inverseSquare said:
Yeah, I'm going to be losing the 5770 :)
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The future is not carved in stone . . . unless someone is holding a gun to your head of course! :p . . . The purpose of this discussion is just to find out if your ideas can stand up to the Rigours of Logic (lol in OcUK GPU forum! :o) . . . and I'm here to learn too! . . .

Does your Brother need a HD 5770 btw? like is he a proper gamer? what was the graphics card he had that died?

inverseSquare said:
TBH I'd be worried about the heat + noise from a couple of crossfired cards anyhow...
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I see, I wouldn't want you to be worried about anything! :) . . . but hold on a sec "heat + noise"?

Are you "wanting" a HD 5850 so much that your mind in "inventing" reasons that don't actually exist in the RealWorld? . . . or perhaps you are using old and outdated information?

MiNxYyY, JeffyB, hyperst and quite a few other forum regulars using HD 5770 CrossFire setups have not reported any problems with "heat + noise"? . . . if there is a problem do you think they wouldn't share their findings with us? . . . if there is a problem with "heat + noise" I want to know about it and will cease to recommend a CrossFired Juniper config . . . . anyone?

hd5770crossfire.jpg

inverseSquare said:
Looks like the 5850 is an ok single card choice then
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Well, if it was priced £185-£200 we probably wouldn't be having this conversation and trying to highlight the beauty of a pair of HD 5770s would be a damn sight harder . . . however the HD 5850 is priced at approx £230 which makes it OverPriced for the extra performance it offers . . .

for someone who games at approx 1920x1200 with a rig featuring only a single PCI-E 2.0 X16 slot then yeah I can see the sense but for someone sitting there with an Intel® Core™ i7 system featuring two full PCI-E 2.0 X16/X16 slots and has approx £230 smackers burning a hole in his pocket and who is keen for an upgrade as well as the eventual upgrade to 1920x1200 or higher I do scratch my head at any good reason not to go Crossfire? . . does your rig have two full blown PCI-E X16 slots btw? . . . isn't that one of the reasons the Intel® X58 Express chipset is so ridiculously costly? £££

Kylie Perrin said:
When working in Crossfire mode was impressive to say the least. Although we are not normally advocates of multi-GPU technology, in this instance it does make sense.

The Radeon HD 5770 configuration was able match or beat a single Radeon HD 5870 in almost every game, and costing around 16% less, that is pretty good value.

While we would not go as far as to say you should forget the Radeon HD 5870 and go for a pair of Radeon HD 5770 graphics cards, there is no denying that these budget graphics cards are really something when used in Crossfire. For those looking to spend around $300 US on their graphics card budget, we feel that the Radeon HD 5770 Crossfire configuration is the way to go.

Legion Hardware 10/19/2009
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Why do we on OcUK forums still recommend a HD 5850 as a better gaming option than HD 5770 Crossfire? . . . does anyone have any negative experiences of HD 5770 Crossfire to report? . . . does anyone who is in the same scenario as inverseSquare (i.e wanting, wanting, wanting a HD 5850) think they would consider a pair of HD 5770's for £25/£30 extra, assuming you had a suitable motherboard processor of course?

Any and all feedback welcome! :cool:
 
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Don't be worried about heat or noise from crossfired 5770's they really are cool and quiet to run, especially the "egg coolers", mine run at about 60-65 degrees full load and are inaudiable on auto fan above my sub 1000rpm system fans. If you have a 5770 already and a crossfire ready mobo it really is an easy decision. Performance is excellent, up there with the 5870 and it often beats it. Simple put crossifred 5770's is faster in pretty much every game (warhammer is the only one i have seen where its not) than a 5850. Heres a decent review for the cf 5770's vs a 5870, and catalyst driver and crossfire application application has improved since then as well and unless you play vantage (although i beleieve graphics test 2 tells the real story) your 5770's will be faster than a 5870, even including the important minimum fps. There seems to be a stigma with some people about the 57xx cards that is based on no actual fact, personal experience and an outdated view of multi gpu setups and they are persistant in recommending a 5850 when crossfired 5770's will offer so much more performance.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/asus_eah5770-powercolor_pcs_hd5750.html
 
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If you get a 5850 you can always crossfire with another 5850 and have a hell of a machine

on another note my motherboard has 1x16 pcie and 1x8 pcie slots ? would that make a difference ?
 
Yeah its ment to be <1% there was an article done a while back that showed there is no dicernable difference between pci-e x8 and x16
 
I'm more than chuffed with my £215 total cost Xfire 5770s, given they perform around the levels of a £300+ card :D
 
Do nothing. You have a good card there, wait untill there is something worth upgrading to for £150:)
 
mame said:
Do nothing. You have a good card there, wait untill there is something worth upgrading to for £150:)
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Then what would his brother use :p? Then again, what sort of gaming does your brother do and what is the rest of the specs of his system?
 
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