Job interview - salary question
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Good idea! Go contracting. Go sit in a big pot with a silly amount of other contractors looking for work, especially in 1st line support.
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So is the OP still interested or are we doing or normal GD sperging festival?
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Still interested in what?
I didnt get the job, apparently I came over well in the interview but came a very close second. They must have been mulling it over or a few days. In the meant time i have applied for about 5 other jobs, signed up to myleedsjobs and also registered for housing benefits and jobseekers
Is it right that I have two and a half years experience in IT, a 2:1 degree and most of the jobs i'm applying for are ~17k. Meanwhile one of my mates gets a job as a supply analyst after getting a 2:2 in a general business course, has had about 30 different jobs in the past 4 years and started on 20k. He was given a pay rise yesterday to 21.5k.
This sort of thing seriously makes me consider moving away from the IT industry to something else
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It is pretty messed up to say the least! I think a lot of it is just how the cards fall for you. I don't know if this role would be of any interest to you. Was in my inbox this morning
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Prepare to get spammed!
Luck of the draw so to speak. Some people in IT are paid far more than what people would expect and some are paid far less than what they expect to be paid.
All you can do is keep trying and do your best with regards to career decisions and trainings.
17.5k sounds ok for that experience... as for £30 an hour... try £15 an hour unless you are very talented 2 years IT exp = 1st/2nd line low level position...
he can work in tescos and get the same but after 10 years in tesco's he will still be in the same position, after 10 years in IT he will be paid a lot more than if he was workign in tesco...
Im getting spammed off totaljobs and others anyway.
Thanks PrOdiGy1 - I rang up and Tom is going to get back to me about the position
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Specialise in IT, rather than just general support. I got involved in SharePoint and now that experience is what people are calling me up about. I have a background not in IT but with just over a year in IT I am being called about 30-40k SharePoint roles as it's desirable.
You don't need to get out of IT if you enjoy it, just find something more inside IT that is more desirable, whether that be virtualisation, some software, security etc. Anything that can make you more desirable for a company.
How about going for a grad scheme? They're tonnes of IT ones, the starting salary is generally okay, and they usually get you more professional qualifications (PRINCE2, MS Certified, etc..). I know a friend of mine who did one of these and after 3 years he's earning 50k.
No problem - let us know how it goes!
Also can echo the graduate scheme comments. I am just about to start on one this month and fingers crossed can get in a similar situation as the guy in the post above!
@decmatt if you don't mind me asking, what kind of grad scheme for it and what development path did your friend follow?
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At my previous roll I set up a virtual server with sharepoint (WSS, not MOSS) that is now being used as the company intranet. This amongst many other things like setup of a WSUS server, BES management, general GP, AD stuff etc. In the future I would really like to get into more virtualisation
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Just look him dead in the eye and say '20K'.
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"20k, but you better give bloody good head...." That should seal it
Guest - I would try and do more down the route you are doing and highlight those point in your CV as much as you can as there are so many general support people out there it makes it that much harder to even get in front of people as support folk seem to be 10 a penny.
I went course crazy to be honest to try and do exactly that. MCITP EA, ITIL v3, SharePoint courses and even an advanced apprenticeship in IT Practitioner. I did all those in less than a year
Thought of a VM course/cert? or similar?
Well you choose what jobs you apply for, so apply for ones with higher salaries
With the experience you've listed that surely means you can go for 2nd or 3rd line stuff?Problem is if you're going for relatively low level support there are a lot of other people doing the same. Also a lot without degrees who are willing to work for less.
As someone has said market yourself as a specialist, don't go for the generic roles. And try and go for 2nd/3rd line stuff as a minimum, sack off that 1st line rubbish now you've got some experience.
I'm mainly looking at 2nd line but a lot of the jobs around are 1st/2nd. I dont mind 1st/2nd. At the moment my priority is getting any job!
From what i have noticed a lot of the 3rd line generally involves more scripting such as powescript, database type stuff and .net (which i havent done)
At least there are a lot more jobs around than this time last year when I was searching
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I found a lot of 3rd line the same, and I don't code which is the reason I went down my route. I'm still looking at the moment, but been for a fair few mixed roles, but things like SP admins or VM/virtulisation consultants are pretty good things to get in to as there aren't as many people in that game.
Yeah, I'd move away into something else.
not true
and your new employer who gets your P45, figures out how much you were on and if its different to what you told them, questions your integrity.
I'm presuming background checks in your industry are poor - if you tried pulling that sort of BS in say banking you'd certainly be risking your job.