Ragazzon Exhaust Review

What sort of exhaust installer fits a hot backbox touching the rear bumper?

Fail.

The exhaust is about the width of a McDonalds straw, and the tailpipe is almost fraudulent in its comparison with the actual diameter of the exhaust.

I would be surprised if this type of cosmetic exhaust styling did ANYthing to improve performance, and I would not be surprised if it actually was detrimental to the overall power delivery of the engine.

In addition, its a 1.4 engine, so I would imagine it would be flowing as much air as an asthmatic Turtle, so I cant see the point of this exhaust.

Now, if you had a complete, straight through, custom system made up, with no silencers or catalytic converters, I would expect that to give a small but noticable improvement, but certainly not this.

Its shamefully cosmetic, and not even good at that, as the bumper will melt and turn brown also.

I also think the reduced turbo lag is pure imagination, as you have not done anything to the system to tangibly reduce back pressure. Infact, you may even need to keep that back pressure with such a small turbo or you risk damaging performance.

I'd be asking for a refund.
 
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Judging by the shocking state of the welds on it, some carp unknown brand that caters to the ricer market.
 
Maccy said:
Looks better though. I'm still surprised that an induction kit and remap took your Bravo to 180hp though!
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Those are standard gains on the 1.4Tjet with my turbo. Need a bigger turbo if you want to go above 210bhp~.

[TW]Fox;16940696 said:
I'd imagine its just made more noise giving you the illusion you are driving a hot hatch.
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In the car you can't hear the noise over the induction until about 5krpm. The car to me feels quicker.

TangoSixteen said:
What sort of exhaust installer fits a hot backbox touching the rear bumper?

Fail.
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The backbox is no where near the rear bumper. The tail pipe was touching the rear bumper but we cut the bottom of the bumper (not visable) so it is not touching anymore.

Matt82 said:
omg people pay those prices for a back box?!!
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Some people do, this being my first ever exhaust - I didn't.
 
Must admit, it's pretty poor design if the exhaust would have been pressed against the bumper as standard.

Don't know if it's me or the pics, but is that huge oval just a clip on unit?
 
Wonder if this is the same make as raggazoni, who I know make backboxes and such for alfas too. Off the few YouTube vids I've seen and from what I've read on the gta they give minimal bhp gains but oh my they sound great. Expensive for what they are, but I'd love one purely for the sound.
 
No one can say how much of a difference it will make on here because no one actually knows how restrictive the factory box is

Some cars have a very restrictive back box, one car I know of is the Corolla T-Sport, swapping it out gives a noticable increase in power (on a dyno) so this could be similar or it could be placebo, only back to back dyno sessions can tell you and as a back to back was not done you will only ever know what your butt dyno tells you
 
Nice one Peerzy! I'm still shocked from the RR day where I was stood there, only to hear the sucking of a turbo! Really had no idea!

I don't see what everyone's problem is here, it's a turbo charged car, regardless of engine size, they like less back pressure. A simple backbox change on an Impreza, for example, can quite easily gain 5-10bhp without any map changes etc. Obviously when you change the full exhaust you can gain a good 40+ bhp, even more when mapped appropriately.

Heck my car as standard makes 265PS so about 260bhp, and the PPP version should make 300bhp, but very rarely does, yet mine with just an exhaust system, made 330bhp, go figure!
 
SB118 said:
Must admit, it's pretty poor design if the exhaust would have been pressed against the bumper as standard.

Don't know if it's me or the pics, but is that huge oval just a clip on unit?
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The tailpipe part is clipped on and secured. The instructions for the exhaust say if you don't have a Sport Bravo then you will need to cut the bumper a lot more than we did. We used a spacer to lower the exhaust and place it below the bumper effectivly, when you should be cutting a big hole in the bumper. We didn't do this because the car will be going towards the end of the summer and I didn't know if I'd want to put the original exhaust back on.

ScoobyDoo69 said:
Nice one Peerzy! I'm still shocked from the RR day where I was stood there, only to hear the sucking of a turbo! Really had no idea!
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People are amazed when I say it's just a 1.4 Fiat, I'm sure if someone came for a passenger ride with me at a meet they'd be equally as suprised at how quick it is for just a Fiat.

I'm really happy with the car but ready to move on to something bigger and a lot quicker soon.

Witor said:
Wonder if this is the same make as raggazoni, who I know make backboxes and such for alfas too. Off the few YouTube vids I've seen and from what I've read on the gta they give minimal bhp gains but oh my they sound great. Expensive for what they are, but I'd love one purely for the sound.
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Yes, this is the same company. The sound for mine isn't a deep chavy sound but more like air flowing, hard to explain.
 
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Think people are being a bit harsh, especially given how awful the OEM backbox looks, pretty much anything else would be better.

Also I doubt the aftermarket is that great for his car so I doubt he's falling over manufacturer choices.

However, it doesn't look the best from what I can see. What is the internal diameter of the pipe?

Personally I probably would have gone for a H&S custom job.

NathanE said:
Judging by the shocking state of the welds on it, some carp unknown brand that caters to the ricer market.
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Since when is FIAT a Japanese/Asian car brand?

EDIT: Just seen they do a full system for the evo and it looks awful. More expensive than a Miltek full system too. Bad times.
 
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Personally I would have gone for a hidden tailpipe but thats just me, quite surprised by the power gains from a remap + induction.
 
Gaijin said:
Think people are being a bit harsh, especially given how awful the OEM backbox looks, pretty much anything else would be better.
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The old one looked fine because it wasn't actually visible. The new one would have looked fine if he installed it properly by modifying the bumper (or buying/fitting the higher trim-level rear bumper that has the cut-out).

But at the moment it just looks like a silly afterthought tacked onto the car. Anyone that comes up behind that car is going to think "hang on, that exhaust is clearly not standard because Fiat would have put a nice little cut-out in the bumper for it".

Apart from the shoddy welds, that's all that's wrong with it. It could look just fine if installed properly. And if it's definitely not a urban hindrance noise that it produces (because nobody expects a Fiat Bravo to sound like a sports car) then I don't see a problem with it!

Since when is FIAT a Japanese/Asian car brand?
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Dunno :confused:
 
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