Ground Zero Mosque

Deadbeat said:
Pretty much says it all. Personally, I can't think of any better structure to go on the site, especially since the proposed "inter-faith community center and mosque" sounds like a mosque with a dedicated goal of spreading information and understanding. These people need to remember that it wasn't Muslims who destroyed the WTC, it was actual, real-life terrorists - hate-mongering fanatics launching an attack against a culture with the express view of cowing and wounding a society which they violently oppose. As mentioned, thousands of people died on that day, and they weren't all white Christians. Ignorance of where to draw the line is why such racial and religious tension is still so prevalent among the panicky masses, and comments like the one quoted hammer home just how blurred people's understanding really is.
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TangoSixteen said:
Absolutely sickening.

Utterly disrespectful to everyone in the free western world, not to mention everyone who died in the attacks that the terrorists planned.
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Many people who think 9/11 was an inside job think the same way about the president when he visits the site. It's all down to perception and what you believe.
 
Tefal said:
And you never let a bit of tact or empathy get in your way of bashing anyone who doesn't claim to love your religion.
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Wind your neck in son...i was joking FFS...lost your sense of humour have you??.

As it was my comment wasnt aimed at you but the people who let facts get in the way of common sense.
 
deuse said:
As I am a USA\UK citizen I can say what I like about the president and imho he is a idiot.
The same as you would say the labour\torys are idiots..

He is a half cast person is he not?(mother white\father black) or are you one of these people who say white+black=BLACK?
I will put it nice for you from now on as in the USA mixed race familys want to be called biracial :)

Back on topic ;)
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What has his colour and ethnicity got to do with anything? You dont like him for his colour or what he does?
 
avec said:

Enough said.
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That guy is a total utter dick, if you believe his words you are a dick as well "for being to gullible" (As he said Muslims are believing getting 20 virgins or whatever, its not like any other religions give you wacky end of life bonus to keep your faith)

Would like to see him punched in the face a few times as well..

Giving us a bad name, ****.
 
magick said:
i'd say the reverse. i'd say only people who unquestionly believe the government and the official state sponsered version of events on 9/11 are stupid. again it comes down to perception.
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no it comes down to facts ;).

9/11 conspiracy theory is not based on facts just people's gullibility - there has not been a shred of evidence proving that the US government was responsible. let's try and avoid circular arguments.
 
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Spawn said:
Wind your neck in son...i was joking FFS...lost your sense of humour have you??.

As it was my comment wasnt aimed at you but the people who let facts get in the way of common sense.
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I know it wasn't aimed at me, but you get up there on your high horse about them always having a go at Muslims when you do the exact same thing in return, you never pass up an opportunity to put the boot in.
 
magick said:
i'd say the reverse. i'd say only people who unquestionly believe the government and the official state sponsered version of events on 9/11 are stupid. again it comes down to perception.
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Even Muslims accept it was done by Muslim terrorists.
Hell, some Muslim countries celebrate 9/11 so why can't you believe it was Muslim terrorists?
 
dmpoole said:
Even Muslims accept it was done by Muslim terrorists.
Hell, some Muslim countries celebrate 9/11 so why can't you believe it was Muslim terrorists?
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Because I've listened to both sides of the story, the governments version of events and the 'conspiracy theorists' version of events and everytime the conspiracy theorists, for me, make a better case than the government for what really happened.
 
lunarwolf said:
no it comes down to facts ;).

9/11 conspiracy theory is not based on facts just people's gullibility - there has not been a shred of evidence proving that the US government was responsible. let's try and avoid circular arguments.
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ok if thats what you believe, thats what you believe. I believe the oppoesite that the governments version of events is based on gullability and no facts. I won't go into any more detial about why I think i'm right and you'r wrong as I don't want to derail this thread. There has already been several threads about 9/11 conspiracy and they all become and endless argument of nothing.
 
stulid said:
police who have raided Mosques in the UK have found terrorist training manuals and other related items.

so yes they are traing camps, you would never find anything similar in a church/cathedral/etc
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You mean like the Copilacion de las Instruciones del Offico de la Sancta Inquisicion? No, no dangerous publications existed in churches!
 
lunarwolf said:
no it comes down to facts ;).

9/11 conspiracy theory is not based on facts just people's gullibility - there has not been a shred of evidence proving that the US government was responsible. let's try and avoid circular arguments.
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Exactly.

Then again the US government has never produced any factual/conclusive or even circumstantial evidence that a bunch a extreme minded goat herders living in the mountains of Asia were responsible.

No fact, no theory, just came out and said it was them
 
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