has anybody even said that ?(skim reading could make me look like a fool
)but you can't take away the lobby system then argue your point, as peoples main gripe with the game was the lobby system.
Modern Warfare 2 is going P2P.
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has anybody even said that ?(skim reading could make me look like a fool
)but you can't take away the lobby system then argue your point, as peoples main gripe with the game was the lobby system.
Don't forget the local servers.
and the laser guns.
and the nuke.
except it won't will it?
Community admins are the best thing against hackers, and you can't have them with a sub game.
Activision servers with admins wouldn't solve problems with accused hackers/cheaters at all. They would take teh valve approach and just ban with no appeal.
They wouldn't have the man power to deal with all the complaints people would lodge against bans. Hell I've almost been banned from several servers for apparently scroll firing when it's simply just fast clicking. Imagine the uproar if a few 10's or hundreds of legit players got banned for something similar, Activision would be slate, they would never do such a thing, too risky for them publicity wise.
They wouldn't have the man power to deal with all the complaints people would lodge against bans. Hell I've almost been banned from several servers for apparently scroll firing when it's simply just fast clicking. Imagine the uproar if a few 10's or hundreds of legit players got banned for something similar, Activision would be slate, they would never do such a thing, too risky for them publicity wise.
prolly nabmins you can see if you scroll shooting or not by your config which is available to all server owners 
or if you want to be lazy get something called morkeye which scans for all configs that arnt allowed and you get warned about your scripts. if you dont change em you get kicked or banned.
thing is on the cheat side i would pay for a better cheat detection for this alone.
cods are a hack fest. not sour grapes just simple fact. i check numerous people daily and its quite funny how many are just taking the pi55 now days. from known players to public noobs .leagues ladders all rife.
thing is how pb is set up its a joke the actual hackers have more rights than legit people
best thing is the most popular sites are so easy to find with undetectable hacks why they cant just infiltrate these sites and add the hacks to ban lists is beyond me. this is the only thing i can see which i would happly pay for.
whether it would be better is highly unlikely though a they would probably still use pb anyway.
or if you want to be lazy get something called morkeye which scans for all configs that arnt allowed and you get warned about your scripts. if you dont change em you get kicked or banned.thing is on the cheat side i would pay for a better cheat detection for this alone.
cods are a hack fest. not sour grapes just simple fact. i check numerous people daily and its quite funny how many are just taking the pi55 now days. from known players to public noobs .leagues ladders all rife.
thing is how pb is set up its a joke the actual hackers have more rights than legit people
best thing is the most popular sites are so easy to find with undetectable hacks why they cant just infiltrate these sites and add the hacks to ban lists is beyond me. this is the only thing i can see which i would happly pay for.whether it would be better is highly unlikely though a they would probably still use pb anyway.
Oh i agree, but then it depends on the price point, if they price it at £2.99 then i'm sure a decent number of people would subscribe for free map packs and regular updates/bug fixes. However if it's closer to £10 then it won't work unless they drastically improve the offering.
My general idea was that they'll have to offer more for it to be a success, otherwise it will fail miserably and rightly so.
We need to start paying a subscription to get dedicated servers now?
that's effectively what WOW players do, and that's what activision are thinking they can translate across to COD.
basically the loops jumps you have to go through to prove someone is cheating. you can get a video of someone cheating and they will not except it could maybe you didnt say his name correctly by accident (typo) even though they got blatent aimbot proof screenshot with guide on and his guide
this is why a lot dont get submitted cause people cant be arsed with the stress . so basically the hackers have it good all ways
basically the hoops you have to jump through to prove someone is cheating. You can get a video of someone cheating and they often will not accept it for some reason. It could maybe be because you didnt give the correct name by accident (typo) etc.. This happens, even though they have blatent proof of the aimbot, and the name clearly shown in the video
so basically the hackers have it good always
that should make more sense. But they dont have more rights, they have the same.
Its just difficult to get somebody banned.
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Seriously if scientists could learn how to use optimism as a power source the worlds problems would be solved...
GET A GRIP! Activision will never in a million years do this at a reasonable price. They will rip people off at every turn just like they did with MW2. There always seems to be a plentiful supply of complete ****ing retards ready to give them all the money they demand.
World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2 are completely different games. Really, the idea you have to start paying a subscription to get dedicated servers when they should be standard is criminal and anyone who would pay for such a service is an idiot.
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Thinking about it more, I'm guessing the DLC packs must have sold well for MW2 and it was one of the biggest launches in gaming history with profits to boot. People mention greed a lot but in business terms that's what they call maximising profits. Basically they stripped the game down on the PC down to basics and it is still extremely popular and well played. Quick check says it's 5th best played game on xfire and 1st most popular game on Steam (has 2.5 times the players than TF2 which IMO is one of the best supported games around).
They also must have looked at the profits which their subsidiary Blizzard must be generating with WoW and the huge subscriber base it has so frankly it would be criminal for a business with shareholders to miss on that opportunity. Unfortunately I highly doubt that they would bring substantial improvements with the introduction of whatever system they are going to bring in. People mention subscription here a lot but they may underestimate the power of micro transactions and just how popular they may turn out to be. It may even be a relatively cheap sub like MS Live and taking into account how many people pay for that this may turn out to be a lot more popular than people anticipate. Infact going back to my earlier post I'm actually worried about how other publishers will start to react if this works, which is very possible. It is a new direction, charging to play an FPS game and could set a serious precedent for the rest of us gamers.
They also must have looked at the profits which their subsidiary Blizzard must be generating with WoW and the huge subscriber base it has so frankly it would be criminal for a business with shareholders to miss on that opportunity. Unfortunately I highly doubt that they would bring substantial improvements with the introduction of whatever system they are going to bring in. People mention subscription here a lot but they may underestimate the power of micro transactions and just how popular they may turn out to be. It may even be a relatively cheap sub like MS Live and taking into account how many people pay for that this may turn out to be a lot more popular than people anticipate. Infact going back to my earlier post I'm actually worried about how other publishers will start to react if this works, which is very possible. It is a new direction, charging to play an FPS game and could set a serious precedent for the rest of us gamers.
Why wouldn't you rule it out? You've been playing fps games for free online for presumably years, but now you're willing to pay simply because these guys want to make more money? You'd accept that? Seriously?!
People who buy WoW have every intention of playing the game for a long time and know the game will be around for a long time.
People who buy CoD, unless they are mentally retarded (and even then only maybe), know CoD is going to last for less than a year at best before its replaced.
There is absolutely no way an FPS can support subscriptions. Aside from the plentiful supply of morons who bought the ridiculously overpriced mappacks for MW2 what else can subscriptions offer? Especially since i have no doubt that Activision would think up anything even remotely feasible as a 'pay for' service. Perhaps we'll be paying to change our account name? Or maybe they'll charge a few £ for a skin or 2? Activision can and will charge full price for the original game + subscription fee + every little extra they can think of.
There is no way in hell it could work out cheaper for the customer and i know there are a lot out there incapable of simple adding up, but i find it hard to believe Activision will make more profit from this than they would a regular overpriced release, not to mention all the trouble a subscription service has with it. Even if they do see good profits they won't see good sales and you'd think that most publishers would like to maximise both as it means you aren't losing customers.
