Best Budget Android phone?

How is the Galaxy Portal better spec? It has a faster processor than the Wildfire (800mhz to 528mhz) and has a slightly higher res screen, though the same size screen, (480x320 to 320x240) but that's it. The Wildfire has more available ram (384mb to 200mb), a better camera (5mp with flash compared to 3mp without flash), and runs android 2.1 compared to the Galaxy Portal's android 1.5(!!!).

I'd say both have their pluses and minuses but I wouldn't call one 'better spec'. Personally only having 200mb of onboard ram is a big downer on a phone you'll be wanting to download lots of apps on. And having only android 1.5 you're not going to be able to put those apps on an sd card either. 3mp camera without flash is pretty shambolic as well.

Actually I would have to say the galaxy spica has a better spec than the wildfire as well (I own the spica :p and I love it apart from a few things). Plus if you buy the mobile on the 3 network you get 2.1 already preloaded on it and it works great, very fast and smooth using launcher pro (I bought mine around 19th April, had 2.1 on, no need for rooting and flashing a custom 2.1 on).

Plus the internal memory isn't a problem for me, the most apps I have had installed was 56 apps and I had 20Mb left and most were silly games around 3Mb and other apps around 1Mb, I only have 31 apps installed now and I have 40Mb free, just make sure you clear cache every week and you free up around 20Mb-30Mb, well I do anyway :p. Plus if it is a big problem, the memory, then you can simply root your mobile and get appstoSD.

Anyway heres my views on both mobiles:

1. Spica on 2.1 already if you buy mobile with 3, however you can still root it and flash a custom 2.1 firmware which will be better than the official one

2. Camera is very good when photos are taken in good light (my previous mobile was the samsung soul U900 which had a 5MP camera and flash but seriously I think the camera on the spica when taking photos in well lit areas are much better than my 5MP samsung U900) but bad when photos are taken in dark areas due to no flash, which is a big down side if you take lots of photos in dark areas etc. (camera is 3.2MP as well not 3MP :p)

3.Spica has a very good development team over at samdroid.net and will have it's own XDA forum this week, so very good support by lots of developers. Wildfire will also have very good support, probably be much better due to open drivers etc.

4. Screen Resolution far better than the wildfires (certain apps will not work with the wildfires screen resolution, I think the engadget app is one of them), plus a lot of expert reviews and user reviews have said the resolution is awful looking especially for web browsing, plus it would look pretty bad when watching videos as well, some even say that they can see the individual pixels on the wildfire. It would look fine if the screen was smaller to make up for it but it's the same as I5700 (3.2"). Plus the screen on the I5700 is very good in the sunlight when set to 80% I find.

The screen on the I5700 for quality is very good IMO and a lot of other people on a number of forums agree, here is a video showing the ipod touch 3G and the I5700 and also some guy asking if it was an IPS screen lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPr5kg5jzA

http://forum.samdroid.net/f38/about-i5700s-lcd-screen-ips-1461/

5. Wildfire will receive an official update to 2.2 (froyo) where as the I5700 probably won't, no confirmation directly from samsung for I5700 yet, however you can root and flash custom firmwares on both the wildfire and I5700 (leshak has an alpha 2 of froyo running on I5700, won't be long till it is fully working)

6. Developers at samdroid.net are working on the drivers of the I5700 to unlock the hardware capabilities that aren't yet implemented (more memory will be unlocked some time in the future as well):

-The Galaxy Spica has 256 MB RAM and 512 MB ROM. But only 146 was made visible to the OS.
-It has a FM capable chip BCM4325, but was not implemented.
-QT5480 chip is multitouch capable but was not implemented

http://forum.samdroid.net/f37/galax...capabilities-not-yet-implemented-81/#post1667

Now that XDA are making a specific forum for the I5700, we should get those capabilities implemented much quicker, but the people at samdroid.net are doing a very good job on there own.

7. You get the sense UI and there widgets with the wildfire, which is very nice, however launcher pro plus now has widgets which look just like the HTC ones and will probably work exactly the same as them, and also launcher pro is much faster than sense and fully customizable

8. The battery life is sort of on par with the wildfire, but this depends entirely on usage like what apps are updating etc:

HTC:
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1300 mAh
Stand-by Up to 480 h (2G) / Up to 690 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 7 h 20 min (2G) / Up to 8 h 10 min (3G)

I5700:
Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 650 h (2G) / Up to 580 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 11 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 50 min (3G)

I can get 2 days and a bit out of my spica with loads of usage, 5 homescreens with weather and news widget updating every 1 hour, hotmail and googlemail updating every hour, screen brightness on 50% when inside and 80% when outside, wifi on permanently when able to, which is most of the time, loads of texting, phone calls, browsing, playing games, mini info which monitors battery and other general stuff.

9. 3 things which I don't like about the I5700 is that the hard buttons are not back lit at all, phone is ok looking but would have looked much better if it had a graphite metal housing instead of a plastic housing (I got a red and black back cover with my phone) and also no flash.

Biggest problem though is samsung and there support which is one reason why I won't buy a samsung mobile again unless they improve there support system a lot.
 
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Lots of options, thanks folks. So, the shortlist is:

HTC Wildfire
SE Experia Mini Pro
Samsung Galaxy Portal
Samsung Galaxy Spica

Or a good deal on:

HTC Legend / Hero

Or stump up the readies for another Desire!

I don't think the wife will be installing hundreds of apps, just a selection of the best, so memory isn't too much of an issue. No intense gaming so no need for lots of BHP, just a smooth interface that doesn't lag.

I won't be doing any rooting or hacking, so what we get out of the box will be what we keep, not adding any more support tasks to my life! We quite like HTC's Sense, as my daughter has a Desire, so that's familiar territory.

Hmmm!
 
I think the Spica and the Portal are the same device. I'd personally rather have the better screen on the Portal than the low res screen on the Mini/Wildfire type devices.
 
Or stump up the readies for another Desire!

I'd rather pay a considerable amount of money and know I've got a decent phone for myself (or family) than pay up a fairly large amount of money and have a poor version of it.

Get the Desire then.
 
I'd rather pay a considerable amount of money and know I've got a decent phone for myself (or family) than pay up a fairly large amount of money and have a poor version of it.

Get the Desire then.
Point taken, but the Wildfire works out to 6 quid a month taking into account cashback from the dealer and Quidco over the two years. 300 mins, unlimited text, 500 mb internet and push email. The desire is 3 times that... so you can see the temptation!
Had a look at one this evening, and admittedly the screen is a lot poorer than the desire, but it's still very useable, and the rest of the phone works well...
The SE Experia mini is too small IMO...
 
I'd rather pay a considerable amount of money and know I've got a decent phone for myself (or family) than pay up a fairly large amount of money and have a poor version of it.

Get the Desire then.

Thing is, the whole point of the op's post was to ask about budget android phones.

The Desire is far from a budget phone. It may be cheap to some, but not the op (or me!)
 
T-mobile pulse! Can't go wrong with one IMO.
That's if you're willing to spend a little time rooting it,putting a custom rom on etc from modaco.
 
Interested in this thread, my wife is after a smart phone but i've been told i can't go mad on the spending so a budget one would be prefered.

And like the OP it needs to be running as is out of the box, I just don't have the time to read up on yet another O/S and support any device that needs hacking/modding.

Wildfire has been on our shortlist.
 
We're leaning towards the Desire I think, for the difference in price after cashback compared to the Wildfire I think we're safer!
 
I thought the biggest problem with the wildfire was that it's screen is a different ratio rather than that it's lower res, so some apps just won't work properly
 
After comparing the Wildfire, X10 Mini and Portal/Spica in terms of both specs and deals I can get them on, I think the Portal wins as my gf's first internet enabled phone.
 
How about the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro? That's generally regarded as the best small android, not many great deals atm though.

edit: the standard mini is very cheap though...

Actually Tesco's are offering a £20 a month deal (Free phone, 500mb data) but it goes through Vodaphone
 
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